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A buff I feel melee champs need

Xavanic··1 votes·1,061 views

so as of late, it has been fairly easily seen, marksman typically decide the game....now something i have really noticed....melee champs struggle to AA a lot in this meta....why....because everyone and their mother has some form of mobility...whether it simply be movespeed increase, such as kai sa E, micro dash, such as vanye Q or blink such as ezreal E....most champs in this meta have some...now what does this mean for melee champs...well what it means is they struggle to output their dmg...at all...all you have to do is walk away from champs such as udyr and warwick and their kinda shit outta luck...yes warwick can delay you a bit with his E and cling a bit with his Q...but thats really his only opening...now what i would like to propose...is a buff, allowing melee champs to move while AAing (although at a slower pace...say they self slow by 25% when doing so or something) as i truly feel it might finally balance out the strengths/weaknesses of ranged vs melee....)

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High Lord Blaze3 votes

Udyr is meant to be kitable, just like the rest of these juggernaut style champions. That’s the counterplay. Warwick has great chasing and has an out with a potentially huge range, so I don’t know what to tell you if you can’t get on people with him.

Xavanic1 votes

[{quoted}](name=High Lord Blaze,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z7XWKxE1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-20T08:09:39.179+0000)

Udyr is meant to be kitable, just like the rest of these juggernaut style champions. That’s the counterplay. Warwick has great chasing and has an out with a potentially huge range, so I don’t know what to tell you if you can’t get on people with him.

but when champs like ezreal/lucian exisit its unfair to the melee players since they don't even need to try, they just outkite them with their overloaded kits...this is the flaw with giving marksman so much mobility, by the time your back in melee range their dashes are up again and ready to jump away, givinging you 1 AA if your lucky....this is why i suggested this, riot has literally turned kiting from a skill, into...well what it is now

High Lord Blaze1 votes

You realize that Ez is all skill shots, right? And unless he has something like Iceborn to help slow enemies, something like Udyr should have no problem running him down (also you can dodge his Qs, especially with high MS). Lucians range is low in comparison to Ezreal, meaning he needs a more help from his kit for kiting. Both Udyr and Warwick have hard CC (Udyrs can’t miss), and Warwick’s is a long leap.

Xavanic1 votes

[{quoted}](name=High Lord Blaze,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z7XWKxE1,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-20T23:41:42.206+0000)

You realize that Ez is all skill shots, right? And unless he has something like Iceborn to help slow enemies, something like Udyr should have no problem running him down (also you can dodge his Qs, especially with high MS). Lucians range is low in comparison to Ezreal, meaning he needs a more help from his kit for kiting. Both Udyr and Warwick have hard CC (Udyrs can’t miss), and Warwick’s is a long leap.

when does ez not get iceborn, not like he loses out on anything, still can pop most squishies with a W Q Q, and lucian just waits for the stun, dashes away and ults, since he always gets BC catching him becomes near impossible due to the movespeed buff, and running away becomes near impossible due to the movespeed buff, also ez's Q is a skill shot? with that hitbox i find it doubtful

High Lord Blaze1 votes

Buying Iceborn sacrifices some damage he could get from TriForce. If you can’t dodge the skill shots, then you’re gonna take damage from them. That’s how they work. You don’t get popped if nothing hits you. And the whole counterplay to Udyr is that he has a hard time reaching targets. That’s what makes him fair to play against. If you think Ez Qs aren’t skill shots, I really don’t know what to tell you.

Xavanic1 votes

[{quoted}](name=High Lord Blaze,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z7XWKxE1,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-21T00:09:16.544+0000)

Buying Iceborn sacrifices some damage he could get from TriForce. If you can’t dodge the skill shots, then you’re gonna take damage from them. That’s how they work. You don’t get popped if nothing hits you. And the whole counterplay to Udyr is that he has a hard time reaching targets. That’s what makes him fair to play against. If you think Ez Qs aren’t skill shots, I really don’t know what to tell you.

the fact i rarely see an ez miss a skill shot...it's really not, and that "he sacrifices dmg" a very shitty argument, considering his W Q combo chunks for about 65% of the health of a squishy mid game when he builds iceborn, plus his Q is much larger then most long range skillshots so....its kinda bullshit tbh on how easy it is to land

High Lord Blaze1 votes

You must be playing with smurfs then, because the Ezreals in my games miss a surprisingly high amount of Qs on a regular basis. Or maybe the people in your games just suck at dodging skill shots. And he must be fed to chunk that hard mid game. If he’s fed, then yeah, he’s gonna hit like a truck, but what fed damage champ isn’t? Ezreal really is fair to play against. Never, in all my time playing league, have I thought Ezreal Q or QW combo was unfair.

Xavanic1 votes

[{quoted}](name=High Lord Blaze,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z7XWKxE1,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-21T01:36:27.557+0000)

You must be playing with smurfs then, because the Ezreals in my games miss a surprisingly high amount of Qs on a regular basis. Or maybe the people in your games just suck at dodging skill shots. And he must be fed to chunk that hard mid game. If he’s fed, then yeah, he’s gonna hit like a truck, but what fed damage champ isn’t? Ezreal really is fair to play against. Never, in all my time playing league, have I thought Ezreal Q or QW combo was unfair.

personally i feel he could do with some nerfs, he feels extremely overbearing whenever i face him, to the point where i literally just want to ff because i cant do anything about him, he's too tanky for the assassins to kill him, too mobile for the juggernauts to deal with him, and kites the adc preventing them from doing anything

1uNo1 votes

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Xavanic1 votes

{quoted}

No [vlad-salute]

why not? please explain your reasoning rather then just saying no

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