Remember when losing bot lane didn't mean you automatically lost the game

I do

Before Season 1 Worlds

Well, probably because losing botlane is statistically a DOUBLE disadvantage for your team, as it adversely effects 40% of your team comps power directly. As opposed to only 20% if losing another lane.

Yeah... I wish that wasn't 100% true but it is. The ranged adc role is so over bearing on the whole game. Honestly no role has even the slightest amount of influence by comparison.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1559377371/205363278?tab=overview

Hhmm, well this is strange: myself as botlane, our midlaner, and our jungler all had very good scores. But would you look at that: we lost! You know why? Because their top lane Darius got fed and completely destroyed all of us every time. But this completely discredits your post of saying that the outcome of the game is determined by how well or badly bot lane does.

This isn't to say that it possibly has a greater impact than other lanes, because, as stated by another commenter:

Well, probably because losing botlane is statistically a DOUBLE disadvantage for your team, as it adversely effects 40% of your team comps power directly. As opposed to only 20% if losing another lane.

But your point that a lost bot lane means a lost game is completely bogus and founded on false ideas that are spread becuase everyone thinks Riot hates the players and only cares about ADCs so that they can big plays in the LCS

Slight edit: Granted our jungler and mid had quite a few deaths as well as kills, my point still stands that a won bot lane does NOT determine the game, that is unless you call a 5/10/10 Ezreal and a 0/8/18 Janna winning against a 15/7/8 Quinn and a 2/13/19 Soraka

It's not just getting the enemy adc fed, the enemy can take dragon with that too, and also the enemy support is going to get fed.

I feel like the UoL vs TSM games displayed the opposite trend. Jungle > Mid > Bot > Top seemed to be more accurate. It's a question of degrees, but if your jungler starts lighting it up and your mid can eat at Bjerger King it doesn't really matter if your bot loses the lane as long as your jungle/mid are roflstomping harder.

It doesn't mean you lost the game. It just means that you have a bigger chance to lose the game because 2 out of 5 of your players are in that lane compared to other lanes only having one player. If your bot lane lost and your mid and top lane won their lanes and your jungler is having more success with his ganks and counter jungling then you have a better chance at winning than the other team that only won bot lane since that's 3/5 won lanes compared to 2/5. If you don't want the game to be a lot about who won bot lane then change up the meta so that 2 people aren't in bot lane. It's not Riots fault.

http://i.imgur.com/3wQr72B.png

IMHO, most of the time: bot winning negates top win top winning negates mid win mid winning negates bot win

This is my theory as a jungler at least. If bot loses I camp mid. If mid loses I camp top. If top loses I camp bot. Usually works out.

I've lost bot lane plenty and by mid game we are deleting their whole team.

The thing is, a lot of bot laners don't know what to properly do after taking bot turret. They think they absolutely have to roam and go mid and whatnot... Usually what happens is bot lane beats us, takes our tower, then disappears for the next 10 minutes.

I get a free farm lane and then take the bot tower, group with my team, and we go on a rampage. I never understood why people will win bot lane and then just leave... Like... you are winning the lane, why end it early and leave? You just gave up your advantage.

I've literally solo 100-0'd the enemy bot lane tower because they just leave the lane and never come back.

What? You don't automatically lose the game if your bot lane losses... This has been seen in both casual, amateur and professional play. The laning phase is merely that, a phase of the game. The game isnt set in stone because one lane doesnt do well in that lane. Not every team that wins has a winning bot lane and many analysts would even disagree with you because it's their belief that the mid lane greatly determines the win or loss of a game. I doubt this post was even serious but in case it was there you go.

I miss Innervating Locket Udyr.

yes especially when the only viable ADCs are the ones that snowball out of control with 0 counterplay (Lucian Corki Jinx to name a few)

I think the reason so many people are complaint about so many assassins are mad because they won bot lane and then got bursts as the adc and lost the game.

The other roles are important as well. If the mid laner gets to the adc with a burst combo, there goes a fed player. So plz

If you're playing a late game hyper carry like or , early game doesn't matter as much as mid-late.

If you're able to farm and pick up some assists/kills you can come back

This is why I hate playing in bottom lane, particularly as the ADC. If you lose, you've lost the game for your team.

I blame the meta, it's made the game stale and predicable over the past couple years. So few are willing to play unorthodox team compositions.

i used to not really care if bot lane fed until i played a game yesterday where the enemy miss fortune got 35 kills in a 25 minute game. even as a fed leblanc she outbursted me

I do.

It was back in beta, when the ADCs went mid.

ive come here as a last resort, riot stop fucknig wasting your money on useless updates and skins, fucknig do something productive like ban trolls and feeders, a bad game is 2 4, maybe 2 5, losing lane is 1 2, maybe 1 3 you get the idea, if you need proof i have screenshots of my last team, 9 22, 3 18, 7 19, THIS IS NOT A BAD GAME, this is feeding and you dont take "intentionally feeding" reports seriously enough, and you ruin this game yourselves, you let trolls and feeders roam this game freely. you ban peopple who ocassionally leave or dc from the game by mistake, but dont do shit for feeders. CLASSIC RIOT LOGIC. you dont bleieve me? just think im raging? tell me which email you would like these screenshots sent to

Losing bot lane winning game is pretty much my MO unless I go on tilt.

I play Kog'maw though :x

When I play support and we're doing bad bot, I'll usually try to roam to mid and make plays elsewhere, since, most likely, nothing's going to be able to happen bot. Although, sometimes the adc doesn't really realize they need to play more passive and still get caught in fights when I'm roaming (or even when I'm there).

My reasoning though, usually the bottom duo will be more likely to roam if I'm roaming, meaning my adc gets more free farm and exp. If I move early enough though, I can usually catch the mid off guard (works better if jungler is nearby as well).

yeah season 1. everything after that. No. I remember this one game though where I helped my 0/3 draven get to 12/3 before the 30 minute mark by just chain ganking as a nunu and diving for double kills for him even if i died.

Bull shits the most times u lose the game, 2 people winning it's much better than one