Is Tristana's detonation charge a little TOO effective on towers?

Shadow Gilgamesh··3 votes·1,325 views

First off, let me say that I know that with any champ release or rework there's bound to be some rough edges, and I generally think the reworked Trist is better than old trist.

But it seems like that det charge gives her a little too much tower taking ability too soon. We all know old trist was a late game hypercarry before, and I'm glad the game doesn't have to hit 30-35 minutes for her to shine anymore, but I saw a game where a 4v5 team fight happened in midlane, a couple deaths on each side and everyone else recalled, and in the time it took for that fight to happen and for everyone to recall and heal, a level 7-8 trist took an outer tower that had ~40% health AND a middle turret that was full before she got chased off. That seems really early for that level of split pushing on a champ. Even other split push champs like Udyr don't seem to have super shredding till level 13 or so.

But I may just be crazy, so I want to know if anyone else feels like she exits laning phase an overly strong splitpusher, yet still has her late game hypercarry status, essentially making her a huge threat for a much larger portion of the game.

13 Comments

Maximum Zilean2 votes

Yeah the damage her E deals to towers now is crazy. Something tells me its going to be nerfed in a later patch.

lxlLilybellelxl2 votes

It's so stupid XD. I managed to chunk the crap out of a tower all the while getting myself killed but getting a double off the detonation while also destroying the tower.

Crett1 votes

My problem is the splash damage during laning.

Only Play Darius3 votes

HA. You think Tristana's splash is oppressive during laning? Jinx

Crett1 votes

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HA. You think Tristana's splash is oppressive during laning? Jinx

When she throws it on the turret, your turret is no longer a safe zone. That's pure evil.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Oh, ok. I thought you were talking about the splash damage that triggers when she kills a unit. Was about to ask you if you know about Jinx 's rockets.

Crett1 votes

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Oh, ok. I thought you were talking about the splash damage that triggers when she kills a unit. Was about to ask you if you know about Jinx 's rockets.

GUFFAW! CHORTLE! Few characters have comparable splash damage to Jinx; I remember the game where she got runaan's. It was almost as bad as Twitch. I wish I didn't remember that game.

Meep Man1 votes

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When she throws it on the turret, your turret is no longer a safe zone. That's pure evil.

Thats not quite how I see it. Any area denial spell cam do this, such as Azir, Cassiopia, Ziggs, etc. most longer range Mages

thunderingice1 votes

I actually disagree. My experience with is that she had her power curve thrown for a loop. Her mid game damage and utility from e is fairly high. And her early is probably good if you are not playing against siv or cait who i expect to counter her in lane. Her late game seems weak. What that Attack Speed growth stat nerf means is that with runes pd and greaves you get to 1.43 as by 18 at full build. in other words, trist cant fight tanks unless her q is on. The cd on it is too long for the length of the ability and the importance of it to her late game damage. She has been turned into another caster adc who has bad aas. I think her attack animation length also increased. Not by a lot, and I love how the sounds make it feel like you can hear when she has her attack finished, but I had a lot of trouble kiting the last game I played her. I canceled an insane amount of attacks. Maybe the issue is how bad her attack speed is. So yeah I am not sure she retained her hypercarry status.

Edit to be fair, I dont have enough games played to be super confident about my feelings on the issue, but trist definitely feels very different.

Fitz n The Fool1 votes

Trist is trash tier. Who cares about E on towers. The champion fucking sucks now.

Retillin1 votes

You are correct. She doesn't have the weakness she had from about 7-12th level and at 1 item that she had before. She is not the same hypercarry she was, but her E is stronger (much so) at high levels and just as good at low levels. I think her E does need some nerfing vs towers. It's a bit too strong right now.

Malix Farwin1 votes

Lets compare it to Nasus's Q(a non adc) or Trynd or Jinx or many others.

BakedLotion1 votes

ap trist with nashors. destroys a tower in 4 autos. I jsut did it and it was hilarious

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