Can Pantheon and Nocturne Ults get an auto Onmyway ping

Kingsgrave·Dec 13, 2014·90 votes·3,010 views

Just like ?

EDIT: The following spells could use one

46 Comments

SteelflameDec 13, 20146 votes

Hell, any not shen global tele could use it, including Teleport.

KingsgraveDec 13, 20148 votes

{quoted} Hell, any not shen global tele could use it, including Teleport.

Maybe even Ziggs bomb as well? Anything that travels a far distance, usually off screen, that has a set landing could work well with this Autoping.

EvilRabbittDec 13, 20146 votes

You don't know how many times I jinx ult then have to ping where my missile is and HOPE my team doesn't stray... =( I would love a differentiated ping. If you are traveling somewhere, omw ping like Rek. If you are shooting something, omw/w/ult ping would be fantastic.

Hyrum GraffDec 13, 20147 votes

{quoted} You don't know how many times I jinx ult then have to ping where my missile is and HOPE my team doesn't stray... =( I would love a differentiated ping. If you are traveling somewhere, omw ping like Rek. If you are shooting something, omw/w/ult ping would be fantastic.

Ashe player here, YES PLEASE.

EvilRabbittDec 13, 20141 votes

Put this on suggestion forum? idk if we have.

Hyrum GraffDec 13, 20143 votes

{quoted} Put this on suggestion forum? idk if we have.

The suggestions forum, is every forum. Have an art suggestion? Put it in Story & Art. Have a gameplay suggestion like this one? Put it in Balance & Gameplay.

This is a popular thread; I imagine Riot will read it and see your suggestion, esp. if we can get it enough upvotes. If they make the OP's suggested changes (because it's the kind of thing, like the Karma/Heimer QOL changes from a couple of patches ago, that they'd just do) but not yours, then I'll make another thread suggesting it.

EvilRabbittDec 13, 20143 votes

Well then, everyone upvote me please. Best change.

Ping would say "X champion name Ulti"

Ashe? Ping would be omw ping that says "ashe ulti" Jinx? "jinx ulti" Ezreal? Ziggs? Draven? You got the idea. (idk how to market =()

KingsgraveDec 13, 20141 votes

{quoted} Well then, everyone upvote me please. Best change.

Ping would say "X champion name Ulti"

Ashe? Ping would be omw ping that says "ashe ulti" Jinx? "jinx ulti" Ezreal? Ziggs? Draven? You got the idea. (idk how to market =()

Thats more difficult to pull off without it being obnoxious because Ashe/Jinx/Draven/Ezreal ults dont land in a particular area. They go in a line. It works with Shen/TF/Noc/Pantheon/Ziggs because their Ults focus on one particular area or person.

SteelclawDec 14, 20142 votes

For global missiles that travel in a line (Jinx, Ashe, Draven, etc) it would be cool if the ulter's team saw a faint overlay of the missile's path and hitbox width. That way you'd know just where to try and herd\cc the enemy team instead of just hoping the shot across the map lands.

Hyrum GraffDec 13, 20145 votes

lol, I logged in to make this exact same thread, then found out I'd been Shen 'd.

RhlaxDec 13, 20145 votes

auto pings should be optional

Cale017Dec 13, 20143 votes

You can see where TF and Shen are going to arrive on the minimap.

Nocturne and Pantheon though, definitely. What I wouldn't give for my team to know when I'm ulting in as Nocturne without me having to ping it.

KingsgraveDec 13, 20141 votes

{quoted} You can see where TF and Shen are going to arrive on the minimap.

Nocturne and Pantheon though, definitely. What I wouldn't give for my team to know when I'm ulting in as Nocturne without me having to ping it.

The Ping mostly calls the minimap into attention, which is needed because even those who read the minimap a lot don't always look at it at the exact time you would want them to be looking at it.

Cale017Dec 13, 20141 votes

Fair enough.

SammystormDec 13, 20142 votes

Most obnoxious part about rek'sai. I hate it.

Hyrum GraffDec 13, 20142 votes

{quoted} Most obnoxious part about rek'sai. I hate it.

Why is it obnoxious to you?

SammystormDec 13, 20141 votes

I want to choose when I ping.

I also find it very glaring and in your face.

I don't want to have to have a "on my way" even when I am not doing something that warrants the ping.

It should be optional.

Hyrum GraffDec 13, 20141 votes

Even if you're just doing something like getting back to your jungle faster, as a laner I'd like to know that you aren't ganking my lane.

SammystormDec 14, 20141 votes

well this is why I think we should have the option to toggle it if we so please.

Cale017Dec 13, 20141 votes

Are you on your way to a selected location?

Sounds like it warrants an "on my way" ping by definition.

SammystormDec 14, 20141 votes

Do you ping when walking into lane? Do you ping when you go some where? I mean they don't have that because it would be annoying. to me the ping is annoying.

Cale017Dec 14, 20141 votes

No, because that's a standard form of movement. Not an ult that has a global scream and brings attention to the fact that you're doing something. When people are just walking around, there's not a whole lot to keep track of that a cursory glance at the minimap can't suffice for. But when someone is making a large shift in position

like, for instance, an ult that carries you clear across the map

in a very short amount of time, it can be beneficial for the team to have their attention drawn to it so that they are aware of where you are.

SammystormDec 14, 20141 votes

It can be yes. However it can also be a distraction and I definitely find it annoying. So what exactly is the problem with allowing me to have a toggle where I can turn it off? No one knew they needed this for panth until rek'sai came out.

Cale017Dec 14, 20141 votes

It's a ping. Literally one, single, half second ping. No more or less annoying than a danger ping or an MIA ping.

And in order for there to be a toggle, the option to have it be a thing at all first needs to become a reality.

Of course no one knew they needed it, because no other champion has ever had an automatic ping doing it for them during a moment when they otherwise wouldn't be able to send out a ping. Nocturne's ult is a great example.

SammystormDec 14, 20141 votes

I also find the danger etc ping annoying. It is nice being able to choose to not use them. Why do I all of a sudden have to use a feature I don't like?

ImHerVoiceDec 13, 20142 votes

at first on my first game I thought I accidently did it (i bought her same day she came out, probably played liike 30+ quick games already between bots/ranked/normals)

RikariDec 13, 20142 votes

Nocturnes should ping it before hand as it has low range in early levels and has a duration of what,0.2 seconds? Shen gives you a shield, Tf is in the same category as nocturne just a bit longer,Panth needs one. We usually ping before teleporting bot btw.

NaharaDec 13, 20141 votes

I dunno if Shen needs it, since it seems pretty obvious where he's going (to the guy that needs to not die during a fight).

KingsgraveDec 13, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shad Croly,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yw0Kw7t4,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2014-12-13T09:43:31.193+0000) I dunno if Shen needs it, since it seems pretty obvious where he's going (to the guy that needs to not die during a fight).

Ive still had games where people didnt realize they were being ulted by me.

Silents429Dec 13, 20141 votes

I don't see how this is a needed feature, You can't simply ping when your about to ult?

Hyrum GraffDec 13, 201414 votes

{quoted} I don't see how this is a needed feature, You can't simply ping when your about to ult?

Why can't Rek'Sai ping when she's about to ult?

It's not about it being necessary, it's about making a better experience for people and encouraging teamwork.

Silents429Dec 15, 20141 votes

I really think its more of just being lazy..

Hyrum GraffDec 15, 20141 votes

How do you feel about jungle timers?

Silents429Dec 16, 20141 votes

Hardly much, I already memorized the timers. And no they aren't the same as having an auto ping.

Hyrum GraffDec 16, 20141 votes

{quoted}

Hardly much, I already memorized the timers. And no they aren't the same as having an auto ping.

I see them as a pretty similar issue. In both cases, the argument against them goes that people who are too lazy to do it themselves, shouldn't get the benefit of them, while the argument for them is more, "Why not? We should be fighting our opponents, not the game."

Silents429Dec 16, 20141 votes

The argument for timers came from it being too difficult to keep track of 6 timers.

In comparison to pressing the G key when your coming for only 2 champions, they aren't the same.

I'm not going to lash out if these changes happen I just see them as being entirely pointless. Also I haven't seen Rek Sai's ult ping ever just her screech?

Hyrum GraffDec 17, 20141 votes

{quoted}

The argument for timers came from it being too difficult to keep track of 6 timers.

In comparison to pressing the G key when your coming for only 2 champions, they aren't the same.

I'm not going to lash out if these changes happen I just see them as being entirely pointless. Also I haven't seen Rek Sai's ult ping ever just her screech?

I see your point and agree that it's a far less important of a change / as big of a deal. At the same time, they've already written the code to have a ping go off when you use a spell, so it should be pretty easy for them to copy the same code over into a different champion's spell.

tl;dr, It's a small benefit, but also a small amount of work so I think it's still worth doing.

Ariel the CruelDec 13, 20141 votes

because the screen turning dark isn't clue enough for nocturne?

Skyfyre123Dec 13, 20143 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ariel the Cruel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yw0Kw7t4,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2014-12-13T19:50:11.421+0000) because the screen turning dark isn't clue enough for nocturne?

Yeah, it is, but you don't know which champ he is ulting exactly. i actually like this idea, but make it so people can toggle it on or off if they want to. It's also a good idea to know when someone is coming so your team has time to move in for a teamfight or whatever. Just my opinion.

JorgéliciousDec 13, 20141 votes

Call me crazy... But can't you just ping yourself, before or mid-channel, teleporting? I mean what's so hard about pinging? I suppose pressing a key and dragging your mouse to the left is an inconvenience

KingsgraveDec 13, 20142 votes

{quoted} Call me crazy... But can't you just ping yourself, before or mid-channel, teleporting? I mean what's so hard about pinging? I suppose pressing a key and dragging your mouse to the left is an inconvenience

In the case of Nocturne you can't ping when you are traveling, same with Rek'Sai and its mostly a split second reaction when I ult as Nocturne. Pantheon creates a circle for the enemy team but many times allies don't even notice the Circle and I often Ult to turn a losing fight into a winning one, so if there was a ping they wouldn't keep running away.