Conqueror Shouldn't do more than like 300 True damage

BrightWîngs··6 votes·3,930 views

This crap is disgusting countless times I've taken like 1000 true damage why is this remotely ok? its simply too much true damage the bonus AD is fine but the true damage is just too much and needs to be toned down but A LOT or just removed this isn't even an item you can buy its a fucking keystone it shouldn't effect the game that much.

24 Comments

Ragnaveil7 votes

It currently converts 20% of damage dealt into true damage, which explains why Jax is running all the more rampant. It should be a small number like 5% instead.

Inkling Commando1 votes

oh god i just thought of something. Conqueror + full crit + item 3031 = all crits to champions will have 30% of their damage be true damage. that is a scary combo if you think about it.

BrightWîngs2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Goblin Ranger,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YuhxNNe5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-10T07:28:36.621+0000)

oh god i just thought of something. Conqueror + full crit + item 3031 = all crits to champions will have 30% of their damage be true damage. that is a scary combo if you think about it.

thats why Yasuo goes it super good on him

BEK Makadur1 votes

Tlaking like it would be broken... Just do the maths and you will see that it doesn´t deal as much dmg as you think.

BrightWîngs1 votes

{quoted}

Tlaking like it would be broken... Just do the maths and you will see that it doesn´t deal as much dmg as you think.

Not sure how you got the idea that me saying that is saying its broken but ok i said it was super good on him. Is it not?

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

{quoted}

thats why Yasuo goes it super good on him

Yeah, killing tanks almost as fast as killing squishies, so much fun for the tank player...

BrightWîngs1 votes

{quoted}

Yeah, killing tanks almost as fast as killing squishies, so much fun for the tank player...

You know it buddy XD

Need Gold 4 Tent2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Goblin Ranger,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YuhxNNe5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-10T07:28:36.621+0000)

oh god i just thought of something. Conqueror + full crit + item 3031 = all crits to champions will have 30% of their damage be true damage. that is a scary combo if you think about it.

Yasuo exists already

ankoanko192 votes

Jax barely builds any AD though? 128 base at level 18 + 65 dmg with tri & titanic + 64 dmg from steraks = 257 dmg + 30 bAd = 287 total dmg and 0.2 = 57.4 true dmg. This is at level 18 mind you. 57 true dmg is pathetic, its barely an old Irelia W.

SithesisLord2 votes

With Conqueror, Jax is dealing all three kinds of damage, leaving even less room to properly itemize against him.

ankoanko191 votes

{quoted}

With Conqueror, Jax is dealing all three kinds of damage, leaving even less room to properly itemize against him.

Not what makes Jax op but alright

Lunar Strain5 votes

"Damage done" isn't the stat you should be looking at. "Damage that would have been mitigated" is the only stat worth looking at

BrightWîngs2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lunar Strain,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YuhxNNe5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-10T05:41:47.589+0000)

"Damage done" isn't the stat you should be looking at. "Damage that would have been mitigated" is the only stat worth looking at

it was the death recap i know those things arnt the most consistent but I died rather fast heres what i saw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321112143640395787/499402315871289344/unknown.png

BEK Makadur1 votes

And what should that tell us? That trynd built pretty weird and ofc with er his e will do the most dmg, also conqueror converts 20% of you dmg into true dmg, it doesn´t add 20% dmg. Tryn got 3 full items+bf while you only have 2 full items which don´t even add that much health. Looking at the items i would assume that trynd isn´t lvl 13 like you but rather lvl 15/16 or even higher. Just not comparable.

BrightWîngs1 votes

{quoted}

And what should that tell us? That trynd built pretty weird and ofc with er his e will do the most dmg, also conqueror converts 20% of you dmg into true dmg, it doesn´t add 20% dmg. Tryn got 3 full items+bf while you only have 2 full items which don´t even add that much health. Looking at the items i would assume that trynd isn´t lvl 13 like you but rather lvl 15/16 or even higher. Just not comparable.

I mean I have 2.5K HP with 250 armor I wasn't underfed I had 5 kill lol not to mention I have 2 items that counter trynd pretty hard item 3047 And item 3110 if he had ANY OTHER keystones he wouldn't have killed me with those items at least not with the span of 4 seconds

Pika Fox1 votes

Thats not worth looking at. If you have 50% damage reduction to physical, and conq converts 1000 phys damage to true damage, it will tell you it did 1000 true damage, but its only an extra 500 damage.

It becomes less valuable if you have arpen too.

BrightWîngs1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YuhxNNe5,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2018-10-10T14:25:59.328+0000)

Thats not worth looking at. If you have 50% damage reduction to physical, and conq converts 1000 phys damage to true damage, it will tell you it did 1000 true damage, but its only an extra 500 damage.

It becomes less valuable if you have arpen too.

Well he had no pen i at the time had 2 items that counter trynd pretty hard item 3047 And item 3110 And he still managed to kill me in the span of what 4 seconds? Even if it was 500 true damage that's still a close to a quarter of my HP from a keystones NO other keystones can do that other than dark harvest and dark harvest only reactivates when you get another stack as long as he's in combat conqueror is still going it's too much damage for free it is the BEST keystones in the game if your champion can abuse it it's basically your 7th item

Pika Fox1 votes

Oh noes, a melee hypercarry is doing damage. Its clearly broken!

If conq is doing 500 damage to you, youve cut out like 60% of their damage or more. Trynd taking 4 seconds to kill you is arguably way too slow, given he is entirely melee and entirely squishy with limited stick potential.

BEK Makadur1 votes

Dude, obv conqu is good on some champs, but the best keystone? Hell no. Also he did the most dmg with his spin because of er which makes ninja tabs not that helpful. Also nunu did alot of dmg and even 5% from minions. You are being killed by a fed trynd with the help of nunu and some minions. 4second is also not rly a short time period. Tryn with that items has like a 1.8 AS ? That are like 7AAs + 3 or 4 spins with crits or ER. Plus he got blade of the ruined king and shiv dmg. He had a 5k gold lead on you and a 4k exp lead...

Swimmx2 votes

Funny how Conqueror has way more power in that keystone than any others riot continues to ignore it.

BEK Makadur1 votes

Just that it doesn´t at all.

Pika Fox2 votes

It doesnt do more than like 300 damage. If conquerer converts 4000 damage over the course of the game into true damage, youre only getting a bit more than 1k extra damage, on average. Less if the enemy is squishier. Its on par with other runes. 1000 true damage isnt +1000 damage.

ankoanko191 votes

Pretty sure the death recap is bugged.. Inorder for hin to deal 1k true dmg from his E he wouldve needed over 3.5k bAD.

BrightWîngs1 votes

{quoted}

Pretty sure the death recap is bugged.. Inorder for hin to deal 1k true dmg from his E he wouldve needed over 3.5k bAD.

well its mixed damage so its some AD but the majority of it is true damage

More from Gameplay

More by BrightWîngs