What if I just happen to not like OP champions?

Chalze··21 votes·12,152 views

The more I play in this current patch the more I feel like there's no real way of winning against them. Of course everyone can say if you can't beat them, be them but I happen to dislike broken champions for one reason or another, whether their kits are too boring or too linear or just unfair to use

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The Yetii Rider11 votes

Become an OTP. Seriously, that's the answer. Rain, shine, off-meta, on-meta, play one champion. You will get so good at that champion that it won't matter what your matchup is.

TempName548463 votes

works to about mid plat these days, the days where you could one trick a shit pick to high dia are over.

Ifneth1 votes

Tell that to Annie Bot and iPav. They play Annie and Teemo in Challenger.

Automated Riven1 votes

Annie bot is mid diamond iirc

The Yetii Rider2 votes

Plat's fine. Why do you need to go any higher?

Ifneth9 votes

Once you’ve gotten to Plat, you look at Diamond and say, “If I could just learn the macro and matchups, then I could win lane or scale every time and translate my advantage into the midgame or teamfights consistently,” and suddenly the urge to compete stirs again.

Once you hit Diamond, you look at Masters and say, “If only I could reach a consistent level of correct play, then I could punish my opponents’ mistakes and translate those leads into levels, items, and tempo advantages that could snowball into wins.”

Once you hit Masters, you look at Challenger and say, “If only I could put in the hours and stay abreast of the meta, I could reach the top 200 players on the server and reach the ultimate rank!”

Once you hit Challenger, you look at the ladder and say, “I bet I could beat these guys. They’re just comfortable where they are and have been for a while. I’m hungry. I’ll find the new tactics, builds, and figure my opponents out. I could reach Rank 1.”

Once you hit Rank 1, you look at LCS and say, “I could do this. I am the best player in my region. If only I could develop the work ethic, cooperation, willingness to learn, and broad champion pool, then I could compete on stage.”

Once you debut in the LCS, you look at each championship and say, “I could carry my team or find one that deserves my talent. That trophy is mine.”

Once you win your region, MSI, and the World Championship, you become a Legend and are immortalized in a skin for a champion of your choice. Then you say to yourself, “I’m indisputably the best player in the world. I can do this again.”

Somebody Love Me3 votes

Holy shit

YoRHa 2B2 votes

So much motivation

meco782 votes

i wish everyone have this motivation i could scale easier

DeathBurst1 votes

Yeah, sure, that's why there are even Garen players in Master...

TempName548461 votes

garen isn't even close to being at the bottom of the barrel right now but you are lying about this either way, do feel free to link me a masters garen one trick or hell even a masters player that somewhat regularly plays garen on a real server.

DeathBurst1 votes

riste is Master on NA, and AdamReformed on EUW

eldritchbreadD1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Yetii Rider,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YsOjEzzR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-28T16:56:40.546+0000)

Become an OTP. Seriously, that's the answer. Rain, shine, off-meta, on-meta, play one champion. You will get so good at that champion that it won't matter what your matchup is.

tell that to every Zac RekSai Kindred Sejuani mains

Ifneth2 votes

This. Ask yourself, “What kind of champ do I want to play?” and then find the closest match. Read their lore and see if you can relate and be excited. Imagine what they think and feel and being in their shoes. Visit their sub-reddit and enjoy the fan-art. Listen to their login theme.

It’s a wonderful experience. :)

JAAAAAAAAAAAAYCE3 votes

As a Jayce otp with 3k+ games on him making it to Diamond on multiple accounts I can 100% tell you right now if you one trick a champ in Season 8 you wont be able to win your games. I was Diamond 1 Season 7 and cant even win a lot of games in silver/gold/plat in Season 8.

My Diamond 3 friend switched from Top Lane Renekton/ADC Vayne to playing Graves/Kha jungle because he cant play Top or ADC vayne anymore. He legit never played jungle before and he is Diamond 4 right now and Diamond 5 on another account by just playing those 2 champs. Right now if you want to rank up, play jungle, play kha or graves, and just rank up the lp. One tricking is pointless.

The Yetii Rider2 votes

One tricking is pointless.

One tricking is only pointless if you think having fun is pointless. You can win games without playing the OP champions. You know the champ. You know how to win bad matchups. You know how to lose bad matchups without tilting and feeding. You know how to play from behind and you know the ways your champion can get ahead again.

You can always play normals.

DeathBurst1 votes

All of that is true, and even in Ranked. Being consistent and knowing how to play from behind is super strong, and one-tricking is the best way to learn it.

DeathBurst1 votes

Granted, I play at a much lower MMR, but still, I don't see any difference between season 7 and 8 regarding one-tricking.

I one-tricked Garen in S7 and reached Gold4. I still one-tricks Garen in S8 and reached Gold3 and am still climbing (+23 LP per win). One-tricking isn't harder this season.

TwinkiePro1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Yetii Rider,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YsOjEzzR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-28T16:56:40.546+0000)

Become an OTP. Seriously, that's the answer. Rain, shine, off-meta, on-meta, play one champion. You will get so good at that champion that it won't matter what your matchup is.

In Overwatch they ban players for one tricking. :/

Strigina2 votes

Overwatch is completely different game where you are able to change your champion when needed. One tricking there denies the way the game was made. LoL is closer to HotS if we should chose any Blizzard game and I don't think you will be banned for one tricking there.

TwinkiePro1 votes

While I understand that point, I still think its incredibly wrong. The one trick isn't doing anything wrong if they are still trying to win.

This could be applied to league when it comes to the pick/ban phase. A one trick who picks last will pick their champion even into unfavorable match ups. Should these players be banned?

OW has the benefit for being reliant on the hero and, usually, the player skill and map knowledge rather than items or runes. unfortunately this leads to a far stricter meta and player choice. If you aren't playing meta, you are trolling. The fact blizzard enforces the meta through visual indicators is one thing, its another to ban players for choosing to play their favorite, and likely best, hero.

It's wrong, and its a game, this should not revoke a players rights to a game for trying to have fun that did not ruin it for others.

DeathBurst1 votes

What, really?

TwinkiePro1 votes

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What, really?

Yup. Falls under the pretense that you can switch but refuse to. Their ToS doesn't explicitly state that you can't so people are going up in arms, especially Torbjorn one tricks it seems.

TheCodeisCupCake1 votes

I OTP Yasuo, that hasn't worked well for obvious reasons

PhearBunny9 votes

psychology tells me that, the majority of players who don't like playing S tier champs, don't like playing them, because there are expectations associated with playing those champs. You are S tier, you are overpowered, you should win. Its embarrassing and tilting when you don't, so u play garbage champs, because garbage champs have the reverse effect. Noone expects you to do well, but when you do, they appreciate you.

Murl0ugh3 votes

That isn't the only conclusion something as broad as Psychology would come to.

I personally get attached to specific champs I like based on personality, kit, etc. I naturally dislike jumping a bandwagon with everyone trying to use a champ just because they are stupid good this patch. There is logic behind attempting to main a "bad" champ.

Your winrate will go up organicly as opposed to flowing with the patches.

Chalze4 votes

There's a few factors for it. It's 70% not liking broken mechanics because it feels like I'm cheating and it's just not satisfying to play. For instance it's way more satisfying landing a 5 man Shockwave than it is landing a 5 man Tibbers or it's much more satisfying performing a perfect insec than just a Blitz grab.

The other 30% is actually purely due to champion looks but that's personal preference

0 Hogapu1 votes

I dont know why this is downvoted cause this is exactly what happens to me. I hate playing one of my main if it starts having a high pickrate, and u explained this quite well actually

Best Ekko NA3 votes

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psychology tells me that, the majority of players who don't like playing S tier champs, don't like playing them, because there are expectations associated with playing those champs. You are S tier, you are overpowered, you should win. Its embarrassing and tilting when you don't, so u play garbage champs, because garbage champs have the reverse effect. Noone expects you to do well, but when you do, they appreciate you.

That's not always true. I've primarily only played the same few champions my entire time in League. I mean, I've tried all of them, but I don't like playing a good majority of them. Some champions are not fun, and it's not really fair to be forced into having to play something that I don't enjoy just because it's "strong" or viable in whatever the meta is. It doesn't have much to do with expectations, it has to do with me playing a game.. if I can't enjoy myself then why am I even playing?

OurLestrade7 votes

It's fun when there's an OP champion that everyone hops onto because they typically have no idea what they're doing and get frustrated when they start losing.

Nøctμrne4 votes

This is what my issue keeps being. As a one trick Nocturne player, so many champs beat me on their kit alone regardless of how fed I may be.

Ex. Ekko with 4 kills almost one shotting me and my team while I am 8 kills strong with Noct, can't do anything to him due to r reset. Ex. I almost got 1v1ed by a yasuo that was 2/6 while I was 9/0 Nocturne, ended the game 9/2 because apparently I was the only person in the game doing anything, and me forgetting a 2/6 yasuo can 1v1 a well overfed Nocturne

I no longer get mad at games I lose, rather I just say "well, their team was full of more updated champions.. " or "guess Nocturne is outdated.. "

I created a new term for all of these broken champs called "child-proof" which I designate as any champion that can still come back and have a major impact in a game despite feeding heavily throughout early to mid game and champions that can snowball so hard with 1 kill that the game is over.

Remember you are playing the real champion that is handicapped and they are using child-proof champions.

Chalze1 votes

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I created a new term for all of these broken champs called "child-proof" which I designate as any champion that can still come back and have a major impact in a game despite feeding heavily throughout early to mid game and champions that can snowball so hard with 1 kill that the game is over.

Remember you are playing the real champion that is handicapped and they are using child-proof champions.

This is great, I don't think I've seen or heard a better term before that describes this. Man, the more I read it to myself the more genius it is.

TheCodeisCupCake1 votes

You main Nocturne, I dislike you

DeathBurst1 votes

Remember you are playing the real champion that is handicapped and they are using child-proof champions.

I suggest you have a quick read at that page: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/more-on-losing

(For the records, the whole book is great, but it's rather long.)

P4ppino2 votes

Personally I don't care about a champs kit when it comes to viability. If the next day somehow everyone's going to play brand on mid, I'm gonna play brand, even though his kit is fairly simple and boring.

Serika Zero2 votes

define "op champions", what does that mean?

some people say Akali is OP, other people think Vayne is OP, other people think Cho'Gath is OP. So, define what OP means for you.

Unless you are playing Kayn jungle, chances are, you can make them work.

Daddy Ants2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YsOjEzzR,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-28T18:50:50.722+0000)

define "op champions", what does that mean?

some people say Akali is OP, other people think Vayne is OP, other people think Cho'Gath is OP. So, define what OP means for you.

Unless you are playing Kayn jungle, chances are, you can make them work.

The only people who think those 3 are OP are either

Bronze or Silver Dunno how to play around those champs.

Serika Zero1 votes

rank 1 in na is an akali player (and irelia). Soooo, there's that

i've heard people call xxx op or yyyyy op over multiple elos. But that's why, someone shouldn't just say "i wana deal with op", they must specify who or what they find as "op".

ps, as far as i'm concerned. Nothing is op unless riot overbuffs their numbers...... like zoe was for a few weeks loool with how she could almost one shot you with RQ every 6 seconds

report yasuo2 votes

Have fun in bronze then

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

I feel you man

Ever since Marksmen started getting out of hand, and I realized they were getting out of hand I HARD stopped playing them on SR. I decided i wasn't gonna give in to using the OP champs just because. I figure I want the enemy team to be able to hand a fun and decently paced game so any time I go bot I usually go Azir and try to punish the enemy team for picking a marksman if they did.

The bot lane can sometimes get SO stale when its always a standard marksman and support. I genuinely enjoy the games were the enemy decides to mix it up or my team decides to mix it up.

Modl Ryden l1 votes

That's fine, it doesn't make you any more special(-er) than any other player.

XeroKimo1 votes

I'm a fill main, but I tend to have some kind of affinity for certain champions, and usually changes every half season to a full season. Like some champs I tend to have more fun than others, or I tend to do better than others, and doesn't necessarily have to be a meta champ.

Right now, my best champion is Swain, ever since his rework, then they buff him to disgusting heights, so I avoid him now, as I also tend to avoid playing meta champs. Sivir is also a champ I'm having high affinity on, but it troubles me as I've been lately in a all time low with champions I can do good with. Could be just the meta, could be cause I can't enjoy many champs anymore. Maybe I should start maining a role, but I get bored of it really quick which is why I'm a fill main in the first place

Hyquiem1 votes

The only thing I’ve everplayed close to S tier is LB. After I started understand ping her difficulties I understood that she wasn’t S tier b/c it’s not so simple to kill people who play mad safe. Then I played azir it may seem his lit is overloaded but there’s a good difference between my azir and the azir of a casual player. Though i find azir boring sometimes and it’s majorly b/c no one really lanes vs an azir. It’s kinda halarious now it’s easier to win on something I’m good at but get tired of but then it’s easier to loose with something that is fun.

Battalion1 votes

I feel ya. I played my placements, got placed in gold, looked at plat said "not this season, not with this 'balance' ", uninstalled two weeks ago. I may look at it again in 8.13 whenever that is.

ƒrostγ1 votes

You can still do well with niche champions. I have above 60% winrate with Lissandra for example.

DeathBurst1 votes

I play Garen, Kled, Urgot, Illaoi, Braum and Sona (spot the difference). And I win just fine. You don't need to play meta champs.

Colgate Gator1 votes

I love to play Olaf top and he isn't considered a good pick even by a microsecond and I have good results with him.

While meta picks are there for a reason, don't take them as absolutes.

DW Diana1 votes

I love champions that are good into hypercarries. Like Malz used to be, or Diana currently is. People that can say "Wow you can do what in 3 hits? Shame you only get 2 before you die!"

Chalze1 votes

You're lucky as hell, I can't help but feel super selfish or stuck-up when playing hypercarries (which is often why I avoid ADC, Yasuo, Trynd, Yi etc)

But funny that you bring up Malz and Diana, I wouldn't say they're hypercarries, Malz definitely lost his snowballing potency as metas changed but Diana's just a mild snowballer which I do play from time to time as well

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