So, QSS and Zed.

Niyumi·May 10, 2016·2 votes·555 views

So, Zed's targeted ult that teleports him onto you and guarantees at least E will hit you, as well as Duskblade, with no counterplay. Obviously that's healthy, and QSS removing it is just terrible, right? When Zed can push R, miss EVERYTHING but his E, and still do ~1800 damage is fair, right? It's all targeted too.

Honestly Riot, I know Zed makes a lot of money from whales, but that's just fucking disgusting.

... but hey, not like I really expect more from some shitty F2P cash grab run by an Asian greed-center.

12 Comments

Elite4RunnerMay 10, 20161 votes

Well, it's an ultimate ability.....

NiyumiMay 10, 20161 votes

Azir ult, Sol ult, Ez ult, Jinx ult, Ziggs ult, Teemo ult, Kass ult... notice the pattern here? All of them can be dodged / countered.

LaserDeathBladeMay 10, 20161 votes

Yeah all those champs are also ranged

Nocturne Zed JarvanIV Yasuo

You may notice a pattern where for a melee champ to be remotely playable they need a reliable gapcloser

NiyumiMay 10, 20161 votes

So, just because they're melee, they deserve to have targeted, undodgeable attacks that do 50x the damage of any skillshot in the game?

Okay.

Elite4RunnerMay 10, 20161 votes

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So, just because they're melee, they deserve to have targeted, undodgeable attacks that do 50x the damage of any skillshot in the game?

Okay.

Against a ranged champion, without a gap closer melee champions can't do anything to counter kiting.

LaserDeathBladeMay 10, 20161 votes

Yes?

Also those ults are primarily gapclosers, it's the stuff that comes after the ult that does damage meaning you have plenty of time to react.

Elite4RunnerMay 10, 20161 votes

{quoted}

Azir ult, Sol ult, Ez ult, Jinx ult, Ziggs ult, Teemo ult, Kass ult... notice the pattern here? All of them can be dodged / countered.

I don't understand your point. They're all different champions. They all have different strengths and weaknesses. Their ults are all meant for different situations.

LaserDeathBladeMay 10, 20161 votes

"oh em gee an Assassin is guaranteed to get a least some damage on me pls nerf"

ADC defensive itemization is stronger now than ever before even with the QSS nerfs, also I don't get why everyone acts like QSS nerf is the end of the world when maybe 1 in 5 ADCs ever build it against Zed anyway.

Elite4RunnerMay 10, 20161 votes

also I don't get why everyone acts like QSS nerf is the end of the world when maybe 1 in 5 ADCs ever build it against Zed anyway.

Lol right, I mostly see QSS in pro play

Zhonia's still works. Build that on your ADC if you're so worried :p

NiyumiMay 10, 20161 votes

"Oh em gee, an assassin can click on me and basically get a guaranteed kill"

Damage is fine, but 2000+ damage for pushing R is absurd. He's like the LB of AD champs, but worse.

LaserDeathBladeMay 10, 20161 votes

I don't know what game you're playing but Zed ult does like 100 dmg if you dodge his Q

NiyumiMay 10, 20161 votes

Look at my game I just played as Teemo. Zed could R, hit E and proc duskblade, and then I die from his ult (despite dodging his shadow's E and his Q). I had ~2.4k HP at the time.