Buffing Lee Sin????

Boomerangbro·6/28/2016, 2:28:14 AM·35 votes·3,096 views

Riot, Why are you buffing Lee-Sin's survivability when near teammates? Is he not GOOD ENOUGH? He is a GOD in the jungle and now you want him to be good at TEAMFIGHTS TOO? He will kick the tank or assassin away from your carry, then be able to have them soak up any other dmg they might encounter. ALL WHILE BEING A TOP JUNGLE PICK!

95 Comments

Jetridder116/28/2016, 2:59:59 AM11 votes

He is a bit weak right now, honestly. Even Rush said this is an interview in the LCS, so did some other player.

Kieferr6/28/2016, 3:19:39 PM9 votes

Guys... they're buffing the shield he gives to ALLIES only slightly! Is this going to make him a top tier pick? No! Is this going to boost his abysmal 44% with rate? Not even! And since when was he a "God" in the jungle? Jesus, fucking bronzies...

Nobody11116/28/2016, 9:20:56 AM8 votes

they aren't buffing lee sin own surviviblity. they are buffing only the shield given to the ally.

Safeguard (W) now shields allys dashed to by 150% of base value, up from 100%

Death by Glamour6/28/2016, 2:48:54 AM8 votes

Because he isnt making flashy plays in lcs

Astôlfo6/28/2016, 3:51:07 PM7 votes

"Is he not GOOD ENOUGH?" "He is a GOD in the jungle"

average winrate in Plat+: 46.3%

And of course you idiots will pull the "herpderp 22% playrate means low win rate blahblahblah" whatever card. Except...

average win rate after 125+ games with him: 48.72%

Wow, what a "GOD"ly win rate, he is obviously "GOOD ENOUGH" and is super amazing and whatever else your delusions make him out to be.

Oh right, Lee Sin is strongest in early and falls off after. Let's see his strongest point...

0-25m: 47.97%

HOLY SHIT SO OP GUYS INSTANT NERFDELETE PLEASE RITO!!!11!!!111 ... and then it just continually drops from there to a solid 45.57% at 40+ minutes. ...

The majority of Plat+ ranked players on him have between 15 to 125+ games. That means between 45.62-48.72% winrate, more or less going up as win rate increases. Wow, very OP.

Now let's look at his matchups. Out of 46 listed junglers... Lee Sin has a positive win rate against 3. Which are...

Poppy with 0.34% playrate (176 games). Mundy with 0.37% playrate (213 games). and Ekko with 2.15% playrate (1131 games).

Jungle Ekko is just terrible. Mundo jungle and Poppy jungle don't even exist to any point of relevance. Literally every other matchup is sub 50%.

Get caught up with the times. This isn't S4 or whatever else it is your mind is stuck in. Lee Sin is utter, absolute, completely horrible trash. But nice attempt at trying to make a repwhore QQ thread.

UnbeatablePlayer6/28/2016, 6:24:48 AM7 votes

jeez, it scales with ap and is being increased by 50% calm down

Naag One6/28/2016, 9:11:16 AM6 votes

Winrate: 45.8%

"GOD in the jungle"

gg

Arkatra6/28/2016, 11:53:17 AM5 votes

Is it me only who thinks Lee picks are annoying because you see them every 2nd-3rd game and not because they're strong? unpopular opinion, but i'd bann Lee Sin over Swain (if Swain once gets into the state where he can be left open) just to don't see that Lee-LCS fanboi in the enemy or in your team? Like really, i bet Lee Sin is around 30% pickrate now.

dEAdbUs6/28/2016, 11:21:01 AM4 votes

Lee Sin is an idol of Riot Games, ALL their designers said that Lee Sin has best design. Teemo and Heimer can be unplayable, but who cares?

Bârd6/28/2016, 1:40:04 PM3 votes

This buff doesn't really do much.

Most Lee players max W last, so until late game, the shield on allies is 60 (+1.2 AP). This difference is too minuscule to even matter. Maybe he saves people from Ignite with a greater success rate. Woo hoo.

Lategame, it will be 300 (+1.2 AP) on his ally, IF he ever shields an Ally, which is significant. The problem here is that Lee is unlikely to actually shield other champions at this point.

In teamfights, Lee pretty much NEEDS to get a good kick off. In order to do this, he will likely need to ward hop to someone, which doesn't shield anything.

AP Lee Song players will be happy about this, but it doesn't really matter all that much.

Fok U Slegs6/28/2016, 7:35:17 AM2 votes

Lee will lose a 1v1 vs kindred, she is better at teamfighting than Lee is, she clears faster than he doesnand stays healthier. Lee is popular because of flashy plays and stupid shit like that, but compared to last season around 5.18-19 when he was in a good place he really isn't that strong.

Bladerunner77776/28/2016, 9:55:41 PM2 votes

nice context

The fact that this has this many upvotes only proves the board's unreasonable rageboner for lee sin

stealthfox946/29/2016, 5:27:00 AM2 votes

Lee is trash atm. If you honestly still have a problem with him you are blindly hating him.

SwiftKitten886/28/2016, 9:52:33 PM1 votes

im not going to say lee donest need a small buff... he does... but lee still has a higher win rate than nidalee does, and is a hell of a lot more impactful mid to late game than she is, AND he still has an easier clear than her