Can we Talk about Galio? Athene's nerf Royaly fucked Galio.

Teemodanegro··7 votes·2,276 views

Seriously, athenes was his staple item... the heal that it has doesn't even proc on his W. Whats the point of the athenes nerf? Does anyone use that garbo item now?

Galio was bae, now hes just nay.

35 Comments

Bud Light3 votes

they also buffed abyssal... and Morello is very strong now and gives him a higher base mana so he can spam abilities more. His costs were too high even for the mana regen he got from athene's so its a better item all around on him

Teemodanegro1 votes

Mana costs aren't the problem on galio since he only uses two spells lmao... it was the efficiency of his passive being put to use.

ViashinoWizard3 votes

Try buying a Catalyst item. Galio makes fantastic use of the Eternity passive.

Teemodanegro1 votes

Except he doesnt.

ViashinoWizard4 votes

Except he does.

Kal Vas Flam2 votes

It was indeed a nerf to Galio, not really massive IMO, but a noticeable nerf nonetheless. If his shield (which isn't really a shield and thus the reason it won't proc the passive) did proc it, then it would be a nice little item on him. Let me ask you this though, have you heard of item 3152? And if so, are you building it on Galio? And if not, get with the program.

Teemodanegro1 votes

I've played with it, but dont like it... I dont find my self in a situation needing to hit the target for 50 more dmg. usually its a one shot with his ult.

ZeeWolfZ2 votes

What????? Dude, Look me up, http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=zeewolfz

Go to Ranked, 18/4/18 Galio.

I haven't pulled him into ranked in 2 years.

Trust me, HE IS FIIIIINE.

ltmetal2 votes

In my opinion, Galio has never been stronger when building as a tank. The changes to catalyst have put mana hungry tanks over the edge. Basically, any champ who wanted to get hit anyway now gets to refresh their mana while doing it. Try taking Galio into top or jungle and doing one of these builds.

item 3027 item 3111 item 3152 item 3068 item 3065 item 3001

item 1409 item 3111 item 3800 item 3001 item 3083 item 3742

Both these builds assume 10% CDR from runes and masteries, but you can live without that.

Ozag the Mighty1 votes

The way I build galio is a MR bruiser doesn't always work but I build the tanky MR items then I get like a wits end just cause.

CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes

I dont think he needs it anymore

Critmaster Garen2 votes

if they want him to have special interaction with the item, they could buff hs shield to grant like a 1 health heal. it would be enough to trigger athenes.

GaleWinUnleashed2 votes

Athene's change royally fucked Galio's reasons to build Athene's. Other item changes made him amazing.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

galio main here, the item change hurt for sure. Now i wont ever reach 40% cdr.

but i just exchanged it to double dorans -> abyssal scepter 100% of the time now. maybe ill buy catalyst -> roa if its a passive lane, but being reasonable, its almost always scepter.

final build looks like this item 3001 item 3020 (now i consider enemy team comp and is it more important to have CDR, flat AP, or pen) item 3157 item 3285 item 3089 item 3135

liandires/rylias/void for that maximum pen build so i can really put a dent in and punish non MR buyers.

I wont touch MR items, really bites I know, but theres simply no room for more items.

CDR is super valuable, but AP CDR just isn't viable without item 3165 anymore.

Teemodanegro1 votes

Thing is, thats just one less item to utilize your passive... That hurts. like alot...

Mysticman891 votes

Making efficient use of the passive isn't really that critical compared to ultimately getting useful stats.

I've seen various galio players just build almost exclusively MR items since they figure the passive is enough to give them damage while still being super tank and it makes me sad.

Teemodanegro1 votes

If you pick galio, into a team with 3 people who primarily deal magic damage. the sensible thing to do is get MR.

Now without athenes being a staple of that build he has to build MR items with no ap attached, basically getting 20-25ap from an MR item currently... thats garbage.

Mysticman891 votes

I know, I do have an S rank on galio so I have some sense of galio mechanics, but there are those who just pile on MR regardless.

There are circumstances where multiple abyssal is not actually nonviable for what it's worth. It feels bad since you're wasting the extra abyssal passives, but if all you need is AP+MR+CDR, then it can be worth even for the raw stats, especially with galio passive.

Teemodanegro1 votes

That wasn't the point. The point is They unintentionally nerfed Galios main item.

Teemodanegro1 votes

Why not Morello's over Zhonyas?

Very Hard Engage1 votes

otherwise you have zero armor and you'll die when you get a good ult.

Teemodanegro1 votes

more attention, bump

DJ S0NA1 votes

Abyssal is his go2item now. It's pretty good.

Teemodanegro1 votes

Abyssal is great, don't get me wrong. But athenes was also amazing on him even though it was garbage for everyone else.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

nah athenes was pretty darn good on any mid lane mage who wanted more mana regen than morellos and also some MR. sacrificing 10 AP for 25 MR and about 1.5x mana regen isn't bad. i liked it on lux. sometimes bought both of them on her

NostolgicSkies1 votes

i was under the impression galio builds where along the lines of abysall, zz rot, spirit visage, void staff.

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

He's statistically one of the strongest champions in the game right now. http://champion.gg/champion/Galio/Middle . 54% winrate mid despite half of all Galio players only having played him for 1-5 games. He benefitted massively from the mage item changes, with abyssal being stronger and giving more MR + CDR, the new catalyst being good on him, and protobelt lets him get off good ults without flash sometimes.

I played him 3 times since 6.9 and he seemed really strong. I never had mana problems without chalice, I guess catalyst was enough?

Teemodanegro1 votes

yeah, winrate is the high n mighty factor that decides whether a champion is good or not. welp

Br4ndon1 votes

You had some good points until you said bae.

Angry Monster1 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/Galio

totally fucked him up. right into a 54% win rate

Teemodanegro1 votes

winrate is totally everything....

Angry Monster1 votes

It is showing that there is a build path, He is just niche. Also 54% win rate at plat and higher is not small feat. If you want to be good with galio you can be.

Keep showing that bronze mentality though, its totally in vogue.

Teemodanegro1 votes

i play in diamond 3 mmr....

Angry Monster2 votes

lol

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24804861

your getting boosted into gold by someone. You do not magically get better after 3 seasons of bronze.

Quepha1 votes

Galio still has a great winrate without Athene's.

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