Talon is NOT as pathetically weak as you make him out to be

Divewing··13 votes·1,613 views
Champion.gg - Talon Middle Stats, Builds, Runes, Masteries and Counters

Note that his winrate passes 50% as early as 5 games played. Note that that increases to ABOVE 60% AT 125+ GAMES. Note that his highest win% summoner spells are Flash and GHOST.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out, the stats don't lie and all the information is there, simply playing Talon like he used to isn't going to work because he ISNT THE SAME CHAMPION. Instead of looking at a 40% win rate because you played one game on him with ignite jumping on the adc and unloading everything at once, then wondering why the adc didn't die, try actually LEARNING the champion.

I played 1 custom game in bots with my brother and within 50 minutes of testing I had figured out that simply trying to dumpster all my cooldowns on him never worked. Instead I focused on ambushing him, then disorientating him with my stealth, and finishing the kill with my now-off cooldowns abilities.

I have lost 2 games with new talon and won at least 6. 1 of those games was because I stupidly assumed their Morgana was mid, then got countered by Ryze.

Believe me, once you all realise that you don't just DUMP everything on your target, and focus instead on using the TOOLS RIOT GAVE YOU, you will find success with Talon.

It's seriously not that difficult to just THINK about what you're doing.

7 Comments

GULAG 4 U8 votes

You thought the boards knew shit? They talk about talon being "weak" because they can't play him correctly and ask why shaco is getting nerfs (55% winrate, y nerfs????)

Don't even bother, talon isn't Up

UltraGigaNiga4 votes

He's not weak. I hope you realize this is the same board that said the Katarina rework was weak until the challenger highlights of people going 20/4 started to roll in

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

those statistics are unreliable. he has sub 50% winrate at all points of game

forist2 votes

No offense, but your sample size is quite lacking. Also, there is a remarkable difference between knowing when to pick a champion and when not too. Understand that against good players talon's niche match-ups are strong but few, he's under-powered because he isn't good enough to be picked regularly, like most other mid-laners.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

The sample sizes for that are also unreliable. Not only are those high winrates less than .5% of people playing Talon most players don't even have that many games played on him. It's like saying X champion is busted in challenger. Champ GG data for 125+ games isnt accurate because the vast majority of his playerbase hasnt even reached that high. Looking at lolking and op.gg only one player even has over 125 games on him. the rest are 120 or less. It's rare to find people over 100.

The more accurate representation is 50 or less because that is where the majority of the people playing talon are when it comes to games played.

Worse people upvoting this arent even looking at the data for themselves to see it's flawed to hell they just want to believe he is good because they sometimes lose to him every now and then.

MissingKayo1 votes

Those statistics don't fucking matter, winrate over experience is taken from multiple patches.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

A fucking men Live and die by the blade Talon

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