@Meddler, i was under the assumption this "assassin update" was to fix toxic assassin gameplay...

SwiftKitten88·Oct 19, 2016·5 votes·693 views

you know so we don't get 1 shot by assasins with zero counterplay,

so WTF is this "edge of night" item doing here?

[NEW] Edge of Night

Total Cost: 3100 G
    Recipe: [Pickaxe + Serrated Dirk + Null-Magic Mantle + 675 G]
Stats:
    +60 Attack Damage
    +35 Magic Resist
UNIQUE Passive: +20 Lethality
UNIQUE Passive: +20 Movement Speed our of Combat
UNIQUE Active - Night's Veil: Channel for 1.5 seconds to grant a spell shield that blocks the next enemy ability. Lasts for 10 seconds. (30 second cooldown) (Can move while channeling)

now they press it while they are running in.. and there isn't a chance in hell you can kill them

HOW IS GIVING EVERY ASSASSIN A SPELLSHIELD WHEN THEY GO IN GOING TO FIX THEM NOT HAVING COUNTERPLAY??

12 Comments

zrWQMdGHtYOct 19, 20163 votes

"Lets rework all assassins, lets add new items to make em cooler" Katarina gets reworked and then dumbed away because all other assassins get new cool AD toys and she just gets a pretty poor kit.. Cheers

Big LincolnOct 19, 20162 votes

it's only going to block one ability and they can't channel while taking damage or being cc'd

SwiftKitten88Oct 19, 20161 votes

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it's only going to block one ability and they can't channel while taking damage or being cc'd

ok... so... let pretend im Rengar and i cast it while running in with my ulti, or im Khazix and i cast it before i pounce in, or im Twitch and i cast it before i reveal myself, or im Zed and i cast it before i ulti, Fizz and i cast it befor ei go in..

or i am ANY FREAKING CHAMP IN THE GAME and i cast it before i go in?

Big LincolnOct 19, 20161 votes

you spend 1.5 seconds unable to attack or cast spells so that you have a spell shield that will tank _one _spell for you in the next 10 second

You completely isolate yourself from any possible combat scenario so that you can use the item active, and getting hit while channeling or even hitting a minion before it's finished puts it on full cd without giving you the shield

there isn't a problem here.

SwiftKitten88Oct 19, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YLeNNezU,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-19T22:49:28.438+0000)

you spend 1.5 seconds unable to attack or cast spells so that you have a spell shield that will tank _one _spell for you in the next 10 second

so u mean like you always do when you position yourself for any team-fight before you jump in as any assassin?

Handy Sandy Oct 19, 20162 votes

Assassins aren't going to be killing in .5 seconds now, so they have some defense. AA + CC = dead assassin. Aren't assassins supposed to counter mages and adcs? Now they just can't peel for themselves as easily and fight their own counters confidently.

RogueWillOct 19, 20161 votes

what about Katarina .... start channeling as soon as the team fight starts by the time it finishes channeling is time to go in anyway,

CrettOct 19, 20162 votes

Nocturne channels ults mage is doomed

KaiokoOct 19, 20161 votes

I believe the item will get changed/nerfed. As far as the toxic gameplay - the assassins that were changed cannot simply insta burst targets like they were used to. I understand the reason why they are giving them extra survivability to still deal the same amount of damage while offering counterplay but I do believe that this item is not the right way to do so.

LoLKiruOct 19, 20161 votes

Sigh, so I know its not actually written on the item (why its not is beyond me, but regardless)

1.5 Second Channel time before the Spell Shield appears, blocks 1 spell then vanishes. Dealing Damage or Taking damage during this channel, ends the channel without giving you the shield, and the active is put on its full 30 second cooldown.

Basically: its almost impossible to use in combat, and anyone they would want to target, can usually poke the shield off, long before the assassin gets to them unless they're caught unaware.

Edit: While i'm at it, most of the big name assassins also have significantly longer TTK's (time to kills), Fizz is the outlier here; but then again his ult now does piss poor damage when used at closer ranges.

WeatheredOct 19, 20161 votes

Hi, welcome to PBE items. They are not the ones that go to live, especially for this season. The PBE community is already on trying to get the cd increased a bit.

SwiftKitten88Oct 20, 20161 votes

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Hi, welcome to PBE items. They are not the ones that go to live, especially for this season. The PBE community is already on trying to get the cd increased a bit.

how about increase the cooldown to 90 seconds and decrease the duration from 10 seconds to 4 seconds