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Just today I have learned Zyra lost her identity with her rework

Saianna··3 votes·634 views

[Attention: Rant'ish]

She's no longer a "plant-as-main-damage-dealer" but "aoe ability damage dealer with bonus weeds that do some minor damage than might be noticed in a super long run"

So this rework gave her bigger Q AOE (for what reason exactly??) and ripped any damage from her plants.. And took her passive (was kinda bad anyways) and gave her eh... Passive W with even more useless plants. And as it asn't enough you guys decided to decrease lifespan of those weeds because of new passive.. So.. You took her lame passive away, gave her new one, which is arguably any better AND nerfed weeds on top of that.

I know Lolking says she's good, sitting with close to 52% winrate.. But this is not the Zyra i fell in love with. This is some "nerf untill becomes support" piece of weed-queen, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Thanks

Btw, it is funny.

I liked Evelynn for her true stealth = she got reworked into tank with unhealthy stealth then nerfed I liked Cassio for her poison = reworked and poison removed from her kit. Then again reworked but still with no poison I liked GP for his sick Q-shots = reworked into barrel tossing Donkey Kong champ I liked playing AP Sion = rework. AP gone. Only tank I liked Shaco for his simple kit with obvious damage = reworked. For goddamn no reason. And it's weak. I liked playing AP Poppy = Nope. Gone. Tank or troll. EDIT: I also liked first Xerath. He felt unique = reworked. Cause he wasn't picked too often. Sigh I didn't like playing Shen = Well who'd expect. Riot reworked him into fighter class or troll.

I still enjoy playing Teemo. Even with that retarded mushroom tossing that took half of his mushroom duration. And I already know Riot is preparing their dildos to rape teemo at some point with another weak rework that no main will enjoy...

Thanks again.

12 Comments

Jamaree1 votes

Sorry mate, but some of the things you loved either sucked or weren't good for the game, sometimes a mix of both

Saianna2 votes

I'll wait patiently untill your champs you love will be changed. Not even for worse. Just changed. And you'll feel weird like "who's that person? Do I know it? It kinda resembles that champ I loved to play".

When that happens.. Well.. You'll join my little club :)

Jamaree1 votes

{quoted}

I'll wait patiently untill your champs you love will be changed. Not even for worse. Just changed. And you'll feel weird like "who's that person? Do I know it? It kinda resembles that champ I loved to play".

When that happens.. Well.. You'll join my little club :)

It already has happened, I mained Old Mordekaiser, doesn't change the fact that things like old Sion, GP, and Poppy needed changes and fixes.

MohawkBird1 votes

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Saianna1 votes

They used to deal twice as much damage.

But the most importart part is what she relies on most.

It used to be plants. Now just Q and E and R (obviously).. that is sad.

Mokkun1 votes

I'm a Zyra main, and I have no beefs with the rework outside of the times when her passive's randomness works against me.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

They removed her damage and put them into plants wtf are you smoking?

Stun eve was obviously broken.... As an old main that should be obvious. And stealth duration on her and twitch were ridiculous.

Can't comment fully on cassi, but prior felt like you had to magically land ulti and blow people up or you were useless. Still only thing I like about the new variations are the dps and new grounded. So I'll give you that one.

GP's rework is bs why give a champ a clunky ass move that's broken when it works. For GP idc how skilled you can get with him the barrels are unhealthy and unbalancable. Not to mention when you ARE great with him it just further shows he's unhealthy.

AP sion was obviously broken......

Shaco actually isn't weak, just that some don't realize his AD build should change. Riot are trying to fix assassins with DPS thus changed him like this which left AS+CRIT weaker. Ignoring AP or Hybrid which are much stronger now, for AD try lethality+IE put 2 points into Q pre- 5 or 4 then max E. Some like 3 points Q but 2 seconds feel easily managable, it's up to preference. You have to understand stealth gap closers and AS+CRIT on assassins was a balance issue, not saying it was right not to give AD shaco alittle bit more Q damage(fun fact Q excludes your AA damage).

Old poppy was broken in general.

.> Starting to think you like broken things.

Shen I like the one more but as everyone will agree, it was retarded for shen to not move sword in 700 units using W like an orianna ball. Overall if that change was implememted I would love new shen over the all, but old shen had range game at least....

Teemo huh, I raugh in swedish, how da fuq do they finally address one item shutting down entire mechanics like QSS and PINK wards. Yet A FKING FREE ITEM can counter an entire ultimate. Hell at least zed could still gap close with ulti regardless of QSS and pinks didn't follow a lot more mobile stealth units.

But the fking kicker, they add 2 not 1 BUT TWO new trap DISABLES to the game. Like i'm not even a teemo main he's just a guilty pleasure for me and I could tell this would be retarded. So now a free item, a perment item, and a passive ALL disable an entire ultimate THREE different things cancel an entire ultimate that you can't even play around like a yasuo wall. UNCOUNTERABLY shut down his entire ulti.

Lmfao,I meant to simply say trap disables and red trinks/duskblade needs removal but I got heated. I like that item hard counters were adressed to directly balance champs kit-wise but 3 different hard counters to a single poor creature is pretty BS even if I'm not a teemo main and know how his zone control can be.

Saianna4 votes

I did NOT said "new Zyra is weaker"

All I said is: SHE IS DIFFERENT in a way that takes fun from playing her for ME.

Stun Eve was broken AF. I remember my frustration. Then just REMOVE stun. What then? Maybe it might work.

Cassio before was 70% posion 30% E. After stashu it became 5% poison and 95% E. After repertoir it became 20% posion and 80% E. That's how I feel about it. She still can't do shit with using poison.

Ap sion wasn't broken. His stun was. If that was the problem, then why Riot doesn;t buff AP current Sion? Cause they don't want AP Sion. In the name of diversity I guess.

You know that as it is passive-critting with AD Shaco with IE gives less crit damage than just critting normally with IE? AD Shaco got shat on simply put. AP Shaco is not all that great. It's just his Q that received a buff. Rest is the same'ish.

Old Poppy.. Yeah it was pretty broken, can't lie. I sucked with old poppy, yet just cause of how broken she was, I still had some kills, was fun. Sorta :)

Teemo and mushrooms and tools to disable it eh.. What can I say.. i'm pissed at it just as much

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Zyra I meant she lost her mage skill damage for plant damage.

Eve they DID remove the stun for a slow remember? She was pisspoor weak xD. Now they gave her an even more broken stealth and olaf'd her.... Hope the next relaunch fixes her, sadly they might remove hate spikes(sustained damage) if she's to stay an assassin so I hope she turns into a skirmisher personally as a stun eve fan I hate current eve xD

AP sion think they're trying to avoid E harass that new sion has, cause even as tank E harassed more than intended which is preventing an off-meta. Sadly to say. And i don't think rito would like Q having high AP ratios either.

Ik what the nerf did to AD shaco was just saying a way to still perform with it. Still needs damage buffs but ty god it's a simple damage buff needed compared to akali who's a clunky mess or few other assassins who need precise QoL buffs to fix. No way they can screw up simple damage buffs for AD. (To this day I still think Q excluding AA damage is a dam bug, but no riot member responds to it, also since Q excludes AA it makes TLD procs harder.)

Saianna1 votes

Eve they DID remove the stun for a slow remember? She was pisspoor weak

Yeah, but it was just for a moment. Still, she lost what was toxic in her kit. Riot should have worked in that direction instead of changing her completely

Warpes1 votes

zyra is cancer

how is there honestly a person complaining about her not being good

Saianna2 votes

Good job. You have read without understanding shit.

  1. Zyra is not weaker
  2. Her damage was transferred from plants to abilities
  3. abilities stronger
  4. plants weaker
  5. Zyra is not weaker

Got it?

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