I honestly feel like Rift Herald needs to be removed from the game

HateDaddy··1 votes·922 views

I just had a game where we were only ahead by 4 kills. Certainly we had a strong mid-laner in Veigar, but the opposing Diana and Riven were also incredibly strong, too. Prior to the RH push, we only had a 3 tower lead. I admit that is significant, but still - 3 tower leads should not equal instant win. What happened next was silly. I was shoving down top inhib tower while my team shoved down mid tier-2. I was able to draw pressure top as Nasus, and my team took mid in response and summoned rift herald. At this point, I go for the dive on Riven fully knowing I will kill her because I am a farmed Nasus and the my team in exchange at least will get mid inhib tower and open it up, maybe even inhib. What happened next blew my damn mind: we actually just straight up won the game at 20 minutes. That is fucking bonkers. In no way, shape, or form should any iteration of what the hell just happened ever be possible. At the very least, RH should probably just die once it has taken inhib towers: the fact that it can push in to the FUCKING NEXUS is unreal.

Listen, I understand my game was unusual. This does not typically happen. But this was a game where the enemy team had a real chance. Ashe engage with Riven/Diana/Lee dive is terrifying, and I believe they had a better 5v5 than we did (we had a Nasus and Shaco). But they never got a chance to even attempt that because RH deleted their base. Again, I'm emphasizing that this was an unusual win. However, I have to insist that something like this should really never be possible. It honestly begs the question on whether or not Rift Herald should even exist. Does it really accomplish what it was made to accomplish: that is, make top lane relevant? Not really. It is usually just a luxury for the team that is already ahead. And in most cases, it is taken in response to a dragon being taken on the otherside, where the top laner that has priority does not matter because he does not have a team to back him up should he try to prevent RH from being taken.

I am honestly at the point where I think RH needs to be removed from the game, and something else should possibly be put in place. I do not begin to even have the slightest clue, but that doesn't mean you can't remove it and leave the pit empty for the first 20 minutes - League was plenty fine for years with this interaction. Maybe it is best we return to that now.

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Critmaster Garen1 votes

depending on the timing of the 3 tower lead (before 14 minutes) it can be a gold advantage of 2400 gold for all turret plates combined + 400 turret first blood gold + 300 local gold for the other two turrets + 50 global gold per turret per champion, that wasnt nearby when the turrets fell.

as you can see, this is significantly more than a 3000 gold lead. so depending on how many plates you got, your lead could have been massive at that stage of the game.

i still think the bounty on turret plating is way too high with 160. it should be more in the range of 50 per plate, or start off lower for the first and easier accessable plates, and increase up to 150 gold for the last and most resilient plate.

it should maybe just start with 50 + 10 per plate level.

Anxious Veigar1 votes

I feel like plates bot should have lower value for sure and plates with rift herald should have their gold reduced by 50% of something. Also make the first plate 100 gold both mid and top, I feel like making the ability to punish assassins by taking their plates for gold mid is nice because most mages can't do much about it (not all, but most).

Luther King Jr V1 votes

And baron

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