And start realizing as to why they are strong. Because riot nerfed pretty much all adc's that had a strong early game or could win lane against a champion like vayne. Please buff twitch, varus, mf,graves, so they can actually shit on adc's like vayne and jinx
YUUKI VK2 votesOR just nerf them.... you know that would save a lot of time. I don't hate them really. just like many others know they are overplayed. and to strong. like every game I play will have at least one vayne main.
but really everone knows vayne kit is a bit stacked
Romans VI XXIII2 votesJinx is weak early game? damn fooled me
Marthian2 votesThe biggest problem with them is their early game. Vayne doesn't have a weak early game anymore, she's fully capable of getting kills early game (With passive, she outspeeds every carry in a chase with no outside factors), BoRK rush is MUCH better than IE rush*, and she's too safe early game. (Jinx has issues, but not as informed on her.)
Athenes Lulu2 votesVayne has a weak earlygame?
Not in this meta where the tank support completely invalidates her weak earlygame.
DropFill2 votes[{quoted}](name=Cancerous Lulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XzeqFuEP,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-10-21T04:48:38.045+0000)
Vayne has a weak earlygame?
Not in this meta where the tank support completely invalidates her weak earlygame.
Make every early game adc have a decent early game again And you will see no vayne.
Eedat2 votesVayne used to get trashed by ADCs like Lucian and Graves and heavy poke/damage supports like Annie or Sona. These picks either got nerfed and/or fell out of favor which means the late game hyper carries get a free lane now. It used to be nobody would first pick Vayne because they knew they would have no chance against a Graves + Annie lane
Yosuke Apperu2 votesI don't mind a jinx being able to do what she does. Being someone who plays tanks (actual tanks not just darius/garen etc.) I like being able to build against the damage and I can too because armor is awesome! However vayne's true damage invalidates my armor as if i'm not even a tank. Yes I know that she's a tank buster but I'm here to say that..wait I really have to say it? Okay.. It's a terribly unhealthy thing! It means you have no front line and she still has hers. People defend vayne but with no real weaknesses( except for on click cc.. but that's everyone's weakness..except for fiora's.. but anywaysss) They took away 3 AD from vayne and buffed her ad per level. How is that a nerf? I understand 3 AD but that's not even close to the nerf that she needs. For vayne? Make her tumble cooldown only 2 seconds at max rank while her ulti is active. Also either make her siver bolts either magic damage or physical and give her the 3 AD you took from her back. As for jinx? Make her fishbones only crit the main target. If you want to downvote this comment then feel free to as it's your right.. but atleast leave me a response telling me why these changes are bad. If you're a fan of my changes? Awesome let me know! Have a good one everyone :)
Kaelnor1 votesTaking 3AD and then buffing her AD per level is bad. That's not even a worthy nerf to begin with. All vayne has to do is farm, and that 3 AD won't even be noticable, heck I didn't notice it at all my last game with her. Her W is the big portion of that damage early on.
AFuzzyMuffin1 votesTaking 3AD and then buffing her AD per level is bad. That's not even a worthy nerf to begin with. All vayne has to do is farm, and that 3 AD won't even be noticable, heck I didn't notice it at all my last game with her. Her W is the big portion of that damage early on.
You do know they didn't buff her AD per level right. Might want to re read the patch notes.
Rebonack1 votesMF is already really fucking strong.
Varus only needs his Innate to pop after three stacks from autos when he's in Just Killed a Champion mode and he would be amazing.
TyroneWatermelon1 votesBecause hype carries are the easiest ad carriers to play,while also the most fun(winning is fun) and are good at all stages of the game
Kaelnor1 votesYou serious?? 
's early game is not even close to partially weak. I just went 11-3 my last game, and I had to do was farm til 6 , and wait for 
's Q to land in a good setup, and BAM, got kills. Silver Bolts does a TON of damage, and can wreck anyone if positioned right with nicely timed tumbles, and a good Condemn would almost guarantee a kill just from the stun.
She's more slippery than wet soap bars and toads, and has really strong sticking power too from her ult and passive as well. I'm sorry but Vayne needs a nerf, like a reduction on her passive's max health damage to 4-5% percent.
Lugg1 votesTwitch is the example all hypercarries should follow. Sucks early and hard carries late if you survive the laning phase.