And quinn also survives another one. Meanwhile naut nerfs, and shyvana nerfs. And GA being buffed because adc's aren't tank enough with maw/scimitar or sterak gage. Tahm kench has the perfect phrase for riot : "Everyone ends downriver... eventually."
SwapShadows24 votesQuinn doesn't really need nerfs, she needs her kit to not be one of the most anti-fun kits in the game VIA rework
Naut was incredibly strong, he needed nerfs.
Shyvana can be quite broken with her ability to snowball 1 kill and start INSTAKILLING almost everyone
Idrc about GA buff
Zed won't get nerfed anytime soon.
DropFill3 votesQuinn doesn't really need nerfs, she needs her kit to not be one of the most anti-fun kits in the game VIA rework
Naut was incredibly strong, he needed nerfs.
Shyvana can be quite broken with her ability to snowball 1 kill and start INSTAKILLING almost everyone
Idrc about GA buff
Zed won't get nerfed anytime soon.
If she is so anti fun, she needs to be nerfed. Nothing less cool than playing against this fucking retarded champion that can roam easily while hving a obnoxious laning phase. You consider naut incredibly strong? Or shyvana early game? Instead of zed and quinn? LOL You clearly play as zed or quinn, this is not possible
SwapShadows22 votesIf she is so anti fun, she needs to be nerfed. Nothing less cool than playing against this fucking retarded champion that can roam easily while hving a obnoxious laning phase. You consider naut incredibly strong? Or shyvana early game? Instead of zed and quinn? LOL You clearly play as zed or quinn, this is not possible
Well here is a reality check to bring you out of your biased fantasy world.
Naut was basically pick/banned every game
Also a kit being anti-fun has nothing to do with nerfs/buffs, it has to do with the overall kit
DropFill2 votesWell here is a reality check to bring you out of your biased fantasy world.
Naut was basically pick/banned every game
Also a kit being anti-fun has nothing to do with nerfs/buffs, it has to do with the overall kit
Hummm, yorick is anti fun to play against. Riot has never buffed him so far because they don't want him to be picked. Why is quinn allowed so?
yay nibbers7 votesBecause Yorick is oppressive and doesn't have many, if any, counters when he's strong. Quinn has clear counters and weaknesses to exploit. Quinn is actually really easy to deal with if you pay attention in champ select.
Anrui4 votesI remember when Yorick was the man back in Season 2 or so. Cho was considered to be the only thing that could match up with him decently.
crippler382 votes
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I mean I didn't play in season 2 but the one time I saw a yorick (back in like season 4) I was morde and we basically did nothing to each other the whole game, he out sustained my damage and I just shielded it all, not sure about the matchup now
1 800 MID LANE2 votes"Oppressive" doesn't even begin to describe a strong Yorick. I think I've played against 1 Yorick in S5 and that was just hell in lane. I can't imagine him being the way he was when he was released.
Anrui1 votesAh yes, a fledgling summoner may believe that Yorick is not very strong but we old timers remember...once upon a time Yorick was the terror of top lane as the biggest lane bully in the game (Urgot also had a period like this as well top lane). He was very oppressive during a period of time before Riot sent him to the shadow realm with the likes of Poppy, Urgot, and Sion (at the time).
You see, usually when champions are underpicked and considered weak or a joke it's because they are purposely kept down (such as pre-rework Poppy for example). Otherwise, they would break the game and all we know due to the sheer amount of how broken they are. Pre-rework Poppy could literally 1v5 entire teams and would become a virtually unkillable 2 shot everyone machine.
Anidan12 votesYes Naut is incredibly strong. Like, ludicrously strong. Are you another one of those guys who sits around thinking tanks can never be OP, barring the universally agreed upon Sejuani during Cinderhulk?
Anrui4 votesNaut's damage, tankiness, and cc is absurdly high similar to Cinderhulk Sej. He's honestly been a sleeper pick for a long time now. Similar to how Vel'Koz is with Faker playing him at IEM. One of the main issues with Naut is his Riptide. It's been a reoccuring issue with him. People underestimate how powerful Riptide is.
Abyssphere1 votesYes Naut is incredibly strong. Like, ludicrously strong. Are you another one of those guys who sits around thinking tanks can never be OP, barring the universally agreed upon Sejuani during Cinderhulk?
Fun fact: there are people on these boards who will deny that Sejuani was actually notably strong during the Cinderhulk era. I've seen arguments that everyone from Lee Sin to Elise outshined her when Cinderhulk came out, even though Elise was still sporting a 41% win rate at the time.
Keti7 votesShyvana is very strong early game, shes one of the best jg duelists at any level and has the highest winrate of all junglers in plat+.
Shuvit2 votesEh kindred is imo one of the best duelist junglers. Shyvana just gets kited way to easily. But lemme tell you her engage is pretty good.....but lets just be thankful she has no cc.
Voluug138 votesThe problem with nerfing Naut is the same that Malphite, Swain or Karthus:
They are merely an symptom of the enforced meta that Riot is doing. The moment the meta changes naut will be back to obscurity and those nerfs will make him even more underpowered that he should be then.
Anrui4 votesI actually agree with you there partly that is. Some champions are just powerful because the meta and other champions that are popular allows them to be. If you've ever played Yugioh, it's kinda like the Evilswarm deck. It's a deck that is only powerful when it counters the other most popular decks. When there is a tier 1 deck that it counters, Evilswarm also become tier 1. Otherwise it's a mid-low power deck if it isn't able to take advantage of it's control aspects.
1 800 MID LANE16 votes"Everyone ends downriver... eventually."
Unless you're an ADC or assassin. Then you're praised.
elon wątroba3 votes
Aaravos7 votesThey will gonna make him clunky at the summer like they did last year instead of a proper, deserved nerf. I think the primary problem with Zed is he allowed to rush maw early, and this item is actually counter his counters heavily. Quinn has the same problem. I can't understand why riot can't just tweak maw finally instead of nerf every single ad champion who can rush it early.
TYGRYS BENGOWSKI6 votesAssassin should be like... wait...wait...wait.... yolo combo and run , not like Zed... infinite shurikens spam without any cost . Nerf his shuriken and make ulti similiar to fizz ( increasing dmg from other skills).
ZED G0D1 votes[{quoted}](name=TYGRYS BENGOWSKI,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XwZqdJAK,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2016-03-09T13:51:34.383+0000)
Assassin should be like... wait...wait...wait.... yolo combo and run , not like Zed... infinite shurikens spam without any cost . Nerf his shuriken and make ulti similiar to fizz ( increasing dmg from other skills).
LOL Zeds shuriken costs close to a quarter of his energy bar..zed needs to have pretty much a full energy bar to do a complete combo
10Tickler5 votesLux survives another patch without a real nerf. Annie Survives another patch without a real nerf Fiora survives another patch without a real nerf Miss Fortune survives another patch without a real nerf Yi survives another patch without a real nerf Fizz survives another patch without a real nerf Lee survives another patch without a real nerf
Just saying, there are bigger problems than Zed, Zed's a problem sure, but AOE instant-cast stun with 300+ burst damage and %HP True Damage while building full tank, those are really bigger issues.
Apocyliptic2 votesThe only one who needs a nerf on that entire list is Lux, and she got one.
10Tickler3 votes
- Builds bruiser, shits true damage while gaining health with no really painful mana costs in laning phase
- Builds two damage items, then goes full tank, facerolling an entire team and giggling the whole time.
- Each wave of bullets in her ultimate has a chance to crit the targets hit. Each. Wave.
- A Medium CDR build has a Zhonya's every 5-6 seconds, with a high mana cost, sure, but that's defrayed by the 
he buys to burst your Mid/ADC/Supp/Nontank Jg.
- Resonating Strike: %Missing HP Execute/Dash. Dragon Strike: No Cost, 600+200% Bonus AD.
It's okay to be delusional, it's not okay to try and convince others that your delusions are true
EROTIC RAID BOSS4 votesThere's quinn nerfs on the pbe right along with the shyvana ones
iDarkWind3 votesIf most of you would practice in game against Zed instead of QQ all the time in the forum would be nice. That's why I just gave up on this community. Always complaining about a champion that needs to be powerfull in laning phase for be viable since he has counterplay (QSS and Zhonya's) instead of looking at other real issues. Just deal with the fact that most of you build a Core Item as first item on your sweet Mage or something instead of a Zhonya's or QSS to denie his burst. Then obviously you proceed to complain about the champion. Just hilarious.
I just hope half of you don't expect to be able to 1vs1 with an Assasin as Squishy Mage, unless extremly behind and stronger. If Assasins can't 1vs1 a single squishy target, what the hell are they supposed to do?
Feed or Famine4 votesZhonya's build path is total shit compared to its counterpart, Maw, which Zed can easily rush with no drawbacks.
Mana heavy casters have to sacrifice mana regen just so they can survive a zed burst, then run out of mana and have to B. Meanwhile, zed can easily survive the one or two bursts they can afford with their 0 mana regen with the help of easy MR from maw, out damage them with the help of the easy damage from maw, and out sustain them due to the fact that he runs off of energy, not mana.
I'm not really saying Zed needs a nerf. I think that either Maw needs a nerf or Zhonya's needs to be a more viable first build, similar to maw.
agbudar1 votesyou don't need a zhonyia's to survive his burst GASP
if you actually need the active of zhoniya's to deal with his ult you weren't carefull enough in laning phase.
people really gotta stop building
and start 
rush then 
with all the armor shred items out there the armor on zhonya is a WASTE OF TIME.
not bashing on you i agree fully with what you said but you seem to fail the answer you need for dealing with zed and other burst champs.
DropFill1 votesyou don't need a zhonyia's to survive his burst GASP
if you actually need the active of zhoniya's to deal with his ult you weren't carefull enough in laning phase.
people really gotta stop building
not bashing on you i agree fully with what you said but you seem to fail the answer you need for dealing with zed and other burst champs.
You know his ult is point and click right? You know he cam spam poke because he is pretty much resourceless right? You know his WEQ combo is pretty undodgeable assuming you are close to the shadow maximum range that is 550 range, that is the range of most mages if not less RIGHT? You don't need to be careful, you need to stay at your turret AND also dodge abilties there too lol. The armor and the active on zhonyas make you survive more lol, zed's buys flat armor pen early not % one. You have no idea what you talking about
Papa Slothy1 votesWEQ is far from undodgeable, Zed is in a VERY strong state right now but he is far from being overpowered
DropFill1 votes[{quoted}](name=Papa Slothy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XwZqdJAK,comment-id=00140000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-10T06:29:12.884+0000)
WEQ is far from undodgeable, Zed is in a VERY strong state right now but he is far from being overpowered
Not when you get slowed. Its very hard to dodge it
Papa Slothy1 votesI have played against Zed and generally it is fairly easy to dodge, but people get annoyed at the rate which he fires out q's
agbudar2 votesyour a moron you cant even think straight i know you hate zed i hate him just as much but to say you have nothing but zhonya's is complete bull
Shonjl2 votesThe issue mainly comes from his Q. He is an assassin but has the safety and damage poke of a long range mage....while being resourceless(His energy means nothing since he will never use it faster than it regens. You won't use your W or E as much as Q so for all intent and purposes he is resourceless)
A lot of the Zed hate would easily dissapear if his Q got nerfed. No assassin should have safe poke, moreso if they have extreme safety in their kit. Cutting the damage or range in half would make him an actual assassin.
agbudar1 voteshey your preaching to the choir i know all that
personally i think people should perhaps stop playing champs like lux (yknow nothing but skill shots)
and start playing champions that have more point and click
i feel is a bit of a hit and miss due to his lowish range.
definitetely a solid pick against zed and she usually rushes RoA anyway.
my personal to go to mage. i have yet to be countered on him his ult simply loves those towerdives especially if you get his E and some voidlings along with it.
seems strange but his ult completely counters everything zeds ult does and if you hate the poke just lvl your W.
has the safety from his turrets.
done correctly and as long as you pay attention and ward can work but this is a skill matchup.
vlad hue hue hue with the right build and masteries laughs at zed's poke. try the wind blessing keystone from cunning + increased healing from the resolve tree and have 40 keks at the insane healing you do. and he has no real skill shots... unless you count his blood pool.
and this is why i think riot won't do much about zed cuz he has his counters.
Shonjl1 votesI myself never have a problem with him. I just do Morgana mid and force him into leaving and losing his tower or farm all day. He can't poke me since I am so far away, he can't really hurt me since what little he lands I heal up with passive. He can't all in me since I am often near or under tower and 1 Q will kill him. And I build tanky so unless he gets fed, he will never kill me when I have over 3k hp and 1 Q heals me for like 400.
He can build Maw all he wants, my pool and TLD hurts him all the same, and as soon as I get Liandrys, I laugh at that shield and MR. I never have issues with him but I can understand people that do.
The Deckowner2 votesbuilding qss first item as any ad champ against a zed, lol good idea.
and zhonyas the most expansive mage item lol so fair
La Barbotte3 votesall quinn needs is her Q to be a slow instead of a god damn turn screen off button
mærk1 votesZed is weak to Fizz. Play Fizz.
DropFill2 votesZed is weak to Fizz. Play Fizz.
Because of what? He can snowball via laning phase
Dessem3 votesPlay Karma into Zed then. Here's what you do:
Level Q first. Whenever Zed approaches your minion wave, remind him that farming while you exist is a big no-no and hit him with your Q. When you reach level 2, level your W, and the moment Zed approaches your minion wave (because he hasn't learned), you W him, manoeuvre into a free position to R+Q him.
Zed will now permanently use his ranged attacks to farm minions and allow himself to be freely zoned by you. Freeze the lane towards your tower and continue bullying Zed out of his farm.
You can do this with any champion that has range, decent CDs and can punish early game arrogance. Syndra comes to mind, but Karma can shield herself to blunt Zed's ult attempts, so... :)
Voluug132 votes
TaoistMaster3 votesHybrid Galio nice
ZED G0D1 votesZed needs a buff, not a nerf. right now zed is borderline useless, one or two screw ups and your game is over
hi im minty11 votesLOL
Like when he full combos the ADC and walks away thinking they got the kill but the ADC ends up with 2hp... yeah, he screwed up.
Masala Chai10 votesHe's a Zed main, 352k mastery points with him. Nidalee (which is his second most played) stays far behind at 38k. It's inherent that he has a strong bias towards Zed, also consider that he's won 13 out of the previous 17 games with Zed.
He's basically like Pika310 or A Wild AP Sona of Zed lol
Voluug131 votesNot really, there are a lot of champion mains that agree with nerfs when those champions are too strong. Just saw a Shyvana player in high elo (D2) admit Shyvana was way to strong and needed the nerfs.
Leeerzeichen2 votesI think most otp are really annoyed when their champ is fotm, because they have a much higher chance of not getting this champ. There was a veigar otp on euw who lost a really big amount of LP when veigar got hyped, because he couldn't play this champ anymore.
DropFill3 votesHe's a Zed main, 352k mastery points with him. Nidalee (which is his second most played) stays far behind at 38k. It's inherent that he has a strong bias towards Zed, also consider that he's won 13 out of the previous 17 games with Zed.
He's basically like Pika310 or A Wild AP Sona of Zed lol
Ofc zed needs no nerf for him. Otherwise how is he going to climb up