Why are kill lanes not punished

Succubús GF··1 votes·292 views

Sure they lose utility. But anivia can build full ap support and still manage to be tanky with utility. Lux just does lux things. Zyra is hell. They don't get punished for going kill lane. It is quite honestly bullshit. They buy like a sightstone at 40 minutes. The rest ap. How is that fair to people that actually are supporting?

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Reikken1 votes

they're punished midgame your fault if you let it get to lategame

Succubús GF1 votes
  1. Completely false, they don't just fall off mid, then spike late. Not how that works.
  2. My fault? That's like saying " Your fault for not banning x champion" Illogical.
Stalinium1 votes

Sona /Soraka and Caitlyn

Boom. Game = won

Nahui1 votes

AP mage isn't quite a kill lane. Mage supports are certain mages who offer enough utility through damage, mainly zoning power, to try and burst down the ADC or pull their ADC ahead in CS. Their counters are that they tend to be squishy, slow, and telegraph skill shot oriented. Extremely susceptible to ganks as they naturally shove the wave due to spell collateral. Also a high CC engage, Leona or Thresh, can easily bring one down as now they are a higher threat than the lower damage ADC early game. So unless you're Soraka, any damage inflicted on them can't really be sustained as they don't have Coin usually or Relic for the heal. Spellthief's offers nothing, and the mage supports bot don't have natural sustain.

A kill lane is one with a champion not meant to be in a support role who just has high base damages and offers really nothing but extreme kill potential.

Examples: Pantheon, Darius, Zed, Lee Sin.

Their punishment? Lack of gold. Kill lanes have one objective. Hard snowball. Anything short of that and they are almost instantly a loss. That or end the game by mid game. Once mid game and end game roll out, the support kill role is underfed and becomes half useless. Champs like Panth and Lee Sin already fall off late game, imagine them with a fraction of the gold. However, in lane, they have a huge advantage in that early game isn't really reliant on gold, especially before first back. Then it's completely even, so Two high damage beats one high damage and a medium damage. Versus a kill lane, play safe, they will also naturally shove, and wait for ganks. The counter to a kill lane is not to beat them or even out CS them. It's to make sure that kill support doesn't get gold, or at least as little as possible.

Paroe1 votes

Annie Anivia Galio Kayle Morgana Lux Orianna None of these are kill lanes. theyre off meta supports.

Kill lanes are where two carries (usually a lane bully) go botlane and forego farming to go after kills.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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Annie Anivia Galio Kayle Morgana Lux Orianna None of these are kill lanes. theyre off meta supports.

Kill lanes are where two carries (usually a lane bully) go botlane and forego farming to go after kills.

i wouldnt call Annie Morgana off meta. they have been meta for so long, season 4.

Succubús GF1 votes

Anivia is definitely kill lane lmao

Friendly Ram1 votes

what do you mean exactly by kill lane? I've always heard that used for whenever the support brings ignite.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

a kill lane would now be considered Nautilus Yasuo or Darius Draven maybe a MonkeyKing Yasuo or a Cassiopeia Twitch if youre feeling toxic

Ralanr1 votes

Tanky Anivia? What?

Succubús GF1 votes

Good luck killing anivia by yourself if she has roa, liandries, and rylais.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Umm, you are talking about pressure lanes, not kill lanes. In a pressure lane, they force you to adjust your play to deal with a threat. In the end, you can adjust it and not feed. A pressure lane does not need to actually get kills to succeed and transition to late game. A kill lane is something silly like Blitz Sup with Thresh ADC, where you just die if at any point in time you get hit by anything. A kill lane HAS to get kills or they will not transition to late with enough of a power lead to close it out.

It's just part of the whole Sustain vs Poke vs All In thing going on in bot lane.

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