Every game is Jinx and Vayne.

Curling Veigar··80 votes·5,287 views

Look, I'm not saying either are OP, (probably overtuned), but it is incredibly annoying seeing these two in every other game. Jinx can lose lane and get a kill with her ult from across the map, do nothing and be goldly later in the game. But it isn't impossible to beat. Just really annoying. Vayne is sort of the same, except with a safe early game and a "fuck up once you're punished harshly" mechanic. Now like I said, it isn't unbeatable, but the amount of time/effort it takes to keep these two down is unimaginably annoying when you have to do it so freaking often because of their popularity. On the flip side you got people playing vayne/jinx on your team thinking they're doublelift or some other ADC god and going 0/5 and blaming high ping like always.

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A Miss Fortune26 votes

The amount of times I see a Jinx player feed and then end up carrying the game is stupid. Not that long ago I played Nami Mid (don't judge) with of course a Jinx on our team. She fed all throughout the game, disconnected I think like 9 or 10 times, had almost no cs at all, and clearly didn't know how to play Jinx or the ADC role in general. She ended up carrying the game ending it like 13-7 or something.

I actually remember one moment she got a Double Kill because she got an AoE crit off, and proceeded to chase their enemy Sivir down Mid lane. Both were low on health, but Jinx lost her guns so she went to melee mode, ran right up in front of Sivir before even attacking, and died and blamed me for it "nami why didnt you heal me" (I was dead by the way).

I also remember she decided to face check the brush by Raptors and decided to 1v4 the enemy team. After dying instantly all I heard was "wtf nami why no heals?".

Kind of annoying when clearly a terrible Jinx player or player in general can still end up carrying simply because they're playing Jinx.

Troy2426214 votes

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Khazix "O-okay, I guess I'll just try again later."

Leona Thresh Naaaa you're not goin' anywhere,...

BuzzinTate12 votes

Ashe Caitlyn Draven Ezreal Graves Jinx Kalista KogMaw Lucian MissFortune Quinn Sivir Tristana Varus Vayne

HayRoss35 votes

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SPICYXL5 votes
Rew71111 votes

How dare you forget Urgot Teemo and Twitch

FistOfSharkiesha6 votes

Corki ....

Rew7112 votes

I thought I saw him... we always forget Corki.

Infinite Daps6 votes

Mordekaiser

Rew7112 votes

Then we must add Azir Gnar Jayce Nasus TwistedFate and Yasuo

Infinite Daps1 votes

Excuse me. Do you have a minute to talk about item 3930 TwistedFate

Rew7112 votes

You monster!

Venowolf2 votes

Where is Corki and Twitch ?

manbearswine11 votes

I'm sorry,I didn't notice that over the fucking Thresh which is in every fucking game.

SymbolicFear2 votes

Thresh is played a lot, but I think Blitzcrank is a little more annoying and just as common.

manbearswine1 votes

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Thresh is played a lot, but I think Blitzcrank is a little more annoying

Well I find thresh more annoying,at least blitzcrank pays for his mistakes.

and just as common.

REALLY isn't.

SymbolicFear2 votes

I played 15 games yesterday on an Irelia binge after I finally bought her. Out of all those games, I saw Thresh in 4 of them, while I saw Blitzcrank in 11. He became much more prominent in Team Builder when I grouped with my gold and plat buddies however. Thresh was more common in the lower elo matchmaking.

manbearswine1 votes

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I played 15 games yesterday on an Irelia binge after I finally bought her. Out of all those games, I saw Thresh in 4 of them, while I saw Blitzcrank in 11. He became much more prominent in Team Builder when I grouped with my gold and plat buddies however. Thresh was more common in the lower elo matchmaking.

Well good for you for being able to find games in teambuilder,I can do no such thing.

Aside from that,lolking's popularity chart is well,directly related to popularity,so thresh is still way more popular.

Jasiwel5 votes

Vayne needs a weak early-mid game again. Jinx's Rockets need to only deal AoE damage, no bonus damage.

Red Ryu4 votes

A lot of people don't know how to bully or lane against them better. Same with Trist.

A lot of people are flocking to those hyper carries as of late.

Gorgannan4 votes

To be fair, of all the "hyper carries," Tristana is not only safe, but she's NOT weak early game. Her mid game is slightly piddling, but if we're talking power at all levels of the game, Tristana is that.

Solidair34 votes

Jinx and vayne have much of the same problems. Both are better in lane than they should be and auto scale to late game no matter how hard they fail.

I think it was Meddler who said it might not be vayne as much as her counters who are too weak but honestly if the "latest of late game carries" is too powerful, I think buffing every adc Instead of nerfing her seems dumb. Early game carries should be dumpstering both jinx and vayne but they can't. Something has to be done, preferably before worlds

Godaren1 votes

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Jinx and vayne have much of the same problems. Both are better in lane than they should be and auto scale to late game no matter how hard they fail.

I think it was Meddler who said it might not be vayne as much as her counters who are too weak but honestly if the "latest of late game carries" is too powerful, I think buffing every adc Instead of nerfing her seems dumb. Early game carries should be dumpstering both jinx and vayne but they can't. Something has to be done, preferably before worlds

kinda silly to say that tho all the early game bully adcs like lucian and caitlyn are really weak right now adc as a position is just very poorly balanced right now. I would play other adcs other then jinx and vayne but they are all ass so why would I?

SymbolicFear2 votes

I think they should just overhaul the bot lane in its entirety. There are so few marksmen that can fit the position in bot lane, and I feel that the attempt with Mordekaiser to add more diversity was a BEAUTIFUL idea, but with poor execution, cause they only made Mordekaiser and not anyone else fit that role. I would take the near dead champions that are played the least amount and give them some role reversals. Switch up Galio for jungle, Yorick for Vitality Mage would be pretty cool, and for sake of the botlane I would make it so Vladimir or Jarvan would be a viable bot lane option, or something else that could deal with Mordekaiser and add more diversity to the composition of teams. Vlad and J4 are pretty bad examples, but at least they are an attempt to think up something new.

Godaren1 votes

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I think they should just overhaul the bot lane in its entirety. There are so few marksmen that can fit the position in bot lane, and I feel that the attempt with Mordekaiser to add more diversity was a BEAUTIFUL idea, but with poor execution, cause they only made Mordekaiser and not anyone else fit that role. I would take the near dead champions that are played the least amount and give them some role reversals. Switch up Galio for jungle, Yorick for Vitality Mage would be pretty cool, and for sake of the botlane I would make it so Vladimir or Jarvan would be a viable bot lane option, or something else that could deal with Mordekaiser and add more diversity to the composition of teams. Vlad and J4 are pretty bad examples, but at least they are an attempt to think up something new.

I enjoy the marksman meta to be honest, the problem with morde is that he was way overtuned so if his team gets a dragon the game is likely over with the free towers he gets from it. Jarvan would be cool Lee sin would be another but I like adc in general think it is just poorly balanced right now

LadyRenly3 votes

It's impossible to shut a Jinx down. You can kill her all you want, but she can always come back from spawn rockets

KatCraft2 votes

That's one of her strengths as a long range utility adc. But she's also pretty easy to kill since she has no mobility. She has good reasons to play her but her power is pretty much in line with Kalista Vayne Tristana Graves etc.

The ability to come back into a game from behind is a strength but she still has weaknesses.

hgjkdlsaf jeldvb2 votes

I've 1v1'd a fed twitch on jinx before. He was an item up and I had just finished my phantom dancer. He also got the drop on me.

Godaren1 votes

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I've 1v1'd a fed twitch on jinx before. He was an item up and I had just finished my phantom dancer. He also got the drop on me.

twitch is garbage tier tho

hgjkdlsaf jeldvb1 votes

I think you're missing the context of "item up" and "adc". Just because twitch is bad doesn't mean that he doesn't output a lot of damage. Sejuani is weak as fuck right now, but you wouldn't 1v1 a fed one on most champs.

Godaren1 votes

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I think you're missing the context of "item up" and "adc". Just because twitch is bad doesn't mean that he doesn't output a lot of damage. Sejuani is weak as fuck right now, but you wouldn't 1v1 a fed one on most champs. I mean vayne can 1v1 an item behind pretty much all the time, do i think she is op? No she just excels at 1v1s. Twitch must have messed up or gotten really unlucky with crits

SymbolicFear1 votes

That and she, like vayne gets to the point of decimation when it gets towards late game, whether she fed and lost lane or not.

Rabid Husky2 votes

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Drak Pinebreaker14 votes

Longest sentence NA.

Rabid Husky2 votes

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IsmokeOregano10 votes

Some one is salty.

Anidan2 votes

Can't you just add in the punctuation as you type? That's what I do. I only edit for typographical errors or new-found facts in the event my post was wrong, since the punctuation is already present.

hgjkdlsaf jeldvb4 votes

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Can't you just add in the punctuation as you type?

I think most people do that... That's what we'd call normal, right?

Abyssphere3 votes

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I think most people do that... That's what we'd call normal, right?

Seeing this post written by someone whose name has the word "Hgjkdlsaf" in it made me laugh. +1

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

I have an easy solution for Jinx. Make it so her Q rockets actually cost a decent chunk of mana. As they are now, they only really drain her mana supply if she never turns it off, but if she just switches to rockets for poke or short trades then the mana cost is almost not there.

Fewtas1 votes

The main reason? Because people are seeing these champs in LCS, trying them, and thinking thye can play them. I am actually a jinx main (I figured out how to win lane 90% of the time) so normals lately unless my internet gives way have been a breeze.

EchoZeero17 votes

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The main reason? Because people are seeing these champs in LCS, trying them, and thinking thye can play them. I am actually a jinx main (I figured out how to win lane 90% of the time) so normals lately unless my internet gives way have been a breeze.

Funny, your lolking profile says something completely different about your winrate.

Lord Mac Tire10 votes

Teemo "Thats gotta sting..."

HopFrogger3 votes

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hgjkdlsaf jeldvb2 votes

How hasn't he been demoted from bronze 5 yet?

Noam Braumsky5 votes

Well, he did say win lane. :P

Psi211 votes

Wouldn't be this way if it wasn't still a tankie meta (tank, Juggn, melee..) What ever you want call these BRUISERS. Vayne... kog.. need a tank buster just as you did in 2011

hgjkdlsaf jeldvb1 votes

if that was the case, ADC kog would be strong right now, but he isn't. Kog kills tanks faster than vayne in most cases.

TotN Titan3 votes

ADC kog has mobility issues and scales even later than Vayne.

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