Please check your summoners before a game starts.

Marshbouy·Jul 18, 2016·21 votes·1,034 views

I am going to have to support a miss fortune who accidentally took smite instead of heal in my silver 5 series. rip me

41 Comments

Amasa DelanoJul 18, 20168 votes

She'll get every cannon minion!

redfeenixJul 18, 20163 votes

Plus you guys should never lose a Dragon / Baron. Probably beats that dumb summoner heal, esp on an ADC

MarshbouyJul 18, 20162 votes

No. Heal is taken on ADCs for a good reason, it's better in teamfights and laning phase. You get nothing out of the jungle items as an ADC except for cheesy bloodrazor shit, and the speed boost and heal effect is much better on an immobile ADC then smite is.

DeathBot666Jul 19, 20161 votes

But it could be useful in laning phase. Grab a red smite item and you get 20% reduced damage for smiting the enemy ADC. That with the 40% reduction from summoner 3 , you could still get fed enough that not having heal in a team fight wouldn't be as bad.

MarshbouyJul 19, 20162 votes

It's really not. you lose every monster based stat the item gets. Thats a lot of gold down the drain.

DeathBot666Jul 19, 20161 votes

Well, lets look at the pro's and con's. Assuming you get the whole item 1419 , then...

You lose:

10% life steal on monsters
20 bonus damage on monsters
extra XP for jg camps.

You gain:

4% max health damage per AA. (Which, in its best case you can get a doing 20% max health per second. ~10% for most other ADC.)
20 bonus damage on minions
reduced damage and vision for 4 seconds if you smite someone
50% attack speed

stats which you gain, but are pretty much useless on ADC:

Bonus mana regen in the JG.

So, you do still gain some good stats, and technically those stats you "lose" still technically are used when the ADC steals some JG camps. Which lets be honest, ADC do that every game. Also, that 50% attack speed is the highest AD attack speed item you can get, only tied by item 3115 , which is AP.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't support the idea of taking smite ADC. I'm just saying that it can work if you don't just ignore it.

MarshbouyJul 19, 20161 votes

i knew you were going to call me out for the stupid. What do you think im saying? IM SAYING THAT HEAL IS BETTER. ITS NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND

DeathBot666Jul 19, 20161 votes

I'm not arguing that, I'm arguing your comment that

You get nothing out of the jungle items as an ADC except for cheesy bloodrazor shit, and the speed boost and heal effect is much better on an immobile ADC then smite is.

I'm making the argument that you can get some good stats out of bloodrazor.

MarshbouyJul 19, 20161 votes

YEAH. that falls under the cheesy bloodrazor shit.

the other stuff is useless

ViocieJul 19, 20161 votes

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No. Heal is taken on ADCs for a good reason, it's better in teamfights and laning phase. You get nothing out of the jungle items as an ADC except for cheesy bloodrazor shit, and the speed boost and heal effect is much better on an immobile ADC then smite is.

smite kog is pretty good, with bloodrazor he is crazy :D but need really good protection, like kayle, soraka, or lulu

MarshbouyJul 19, 20161 votes

That also qualifies as "cheesy bloodrazor shit" xD

Deep Terror NamiJul 18, 20165 votes

I recently had an Amumu jungle that didn't take smite D: Stayed with him the first two camps and healed him 2 extra times and he survived his early clear, and we ended up winning the game without anyone flaming :3

I try to remind people but don't always notice. I also get flamed literally every time I ask people to check...

MarshbouyJul 18, 20161 votes

ouch

redfeenixJul 18, 20162 votes

Guess the final 30 seconds should magnify your summoners/runes, right now their really small and barely noticeable. Its hard to glance at and see you made a wrong choice when the icons are so small.

LuggJul 18, 20162 votes

Also check your teammates summoners. We are all human and forget to change them if we had a different role the previous game.

MarshbouyJul 18, 20161 votes

i told them but they were afk or something

OleandervineJul 18, 20162 votes

An ADC taking smite is hardly the worst thing that could happen. In fact, the only role that NEEDS a specific summoner's spell is Jungle. Everyone else can pretty much find some way to utilize any spell they bring along.

MarshbouyJul 18, 20162 votes

it resulted in her dying repeatedly when heal would have saved her

OleandervineJul 18, 20162 votes

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it resulted in her dying repeatedly when heal would have saved her

That's her own poor positioning then. If she knows she didn't have heal, she shouldn't have been playing as recklessly as if she did have it. That death could have easily been averted by more defensive play and better positioning, and not necessarily a direct cause of not having Heal.

MarshbouyJul 18, 20161 votes

yeah that poor positioning when we were dived by the jungler and bot lane under turret and she would have survived if she had heal.

sir d wreckJul 18, 20161 votes

The MF went 12/5/12 in a 38 minute game, that's hardly a bad score, it seems like despite accidentally picking smite she tried her best.

MarshbouyJul 18, 20161 votes

she most certainly did not do bad, but she could have died less.

OleandervineJul 18, 20162 votes

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The MF went 12/5/12 in a 38 minute game, that's hardly a bad score, it seems like despite accidentally picking smite she tried her best.

I wasn't upset with the MF, just trying to point out that factors other than not having heal could have caused that death, especially since the OP is trying to use that as the poster child for his campaign to enforce specific summoner's spells on roles other than jungle.

sir d wreckJul 18, 20161 votes

Yeah I understand. I just wanted to give you that info so you got a bit more context to the situation.

sir d wreckJul 18, 20161 votes

She went 12/5/12 in a 38 minute long game and she only died 5 times, is that really dying repeatedly?

MarshbouyJul 18, 20161 votes

Yes, considering she would have died less if she had heal. i am not flaming her. I am pointing out that heal is a good idea to take on ADC.

sir d wreckJul 18, 20161 votes

I hear you, and I get the frustration, etc. It just seems that saying "died repeatedly" is a bit exaggeration since 5 deaths in 40 minutes is actually fine.

Blumpkin NationJul 18, 20161 votes

Why didn't she build a jungle item and utilize the option to have 20% less damage dealt to you when smiting enemy champions?

MarshbouyJul 18, 20162 votes

becasue all the other stats on the items were next to worthless in lane?

Blumpkin NationJul 19, 20161 votes

60 AD, being able to contest dragon/baron/scuttle/stealing buffs/etc is worthless?

No. She/he just didn't make the best of the situation and adapt. God forbid they even decided to build Bloodrazor.

MarshbouyJul 19, 20161 votes

Because we can't contest it already with a jungler?

or you can dodge the jungle item and build like a normal fucking adc.

Blumpkin NationJul 19, 20161 votes

You must be fun in games. Ruin all the positivity and even attempt to try anything different that could possibly benefit the team.

You freakin' realize that buying a jungler item on an ADC means they can help take objectives SO much faster than just one jungler, right? I never said to RUSH a Jungle item, but ffs. Getting 60 AD and a Smite on Champions option is better than getting nothing and having smite be useless in lane.

Don't be a prude.

MarshbouyJul 19, 20161 votes

Dude. It was a ranked game in silver 5. In my series. That is not the time to break the meta and try out new shit.

Blumpkin NationJul 19, 20161 votes

Dude. You said they had taken smite by accident. It's making the best of a bad situation. It's also Silver 5. Unless you were being demoted to Bronze I, take a chill-pill.

Nevermind- I can see you're in Silver 5 for a reason.

MarshbouyJul 19, 20161 votes

I literally said "please" and i didn't flame her once the whole time. I was her support. Bot lane went fine.

420 gramsJul 18, 20161 votes

I made it a habit after picking champion to pick corresponding mysteries and summoners. Plus it bothers me they revert back if a lobby gets disbanded

ltmetalJul 18, 20161 votes

The first thing i do in the lobby, even before pick intent ends, is set up my summs. It's immediately after you find out what position you are playing anyway, so just form the habit and be done with it.

DarkRitualJul 18, 20161 votes

Midlane has a lot of variety though, so untill you know what champ you're on/against, you can't be sure about summs all the time. Even support has some sway between Exhaust and Ignite, again teamcomps depending.

GibberwattJul 19, 20161 votes

I'm pretty sure that most, if not all people, myself included, check summoners. However, being that we aren't computers, make mistakes. I have forgotten to get items a the start, or gotten the wrong items (only once), or forgotten to change summoners. Just because we forget once, does not mean that we consistently forget.