Since [Problems with Cassiopeia] was released 2 days ago, We Wukong mains have decided to make it easier for you to address Wukong and his problems.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Wukongmains/comments/a01ikx/the_problems_with_wukong/
Just let us know if there's something missing, we'd be glad to add it to the list.
As a player who loved playing bruser wukong in season 3 this post makes me remeber that and i thank you for that. I had so much fun whit him back than on top, but i hate too see what he turned out to be later i dread too see him in my games as i know hes obligated to build one way and play one way otherside its a useless pick and this post summs up the problems whit no swearing or hating and just thank you for that.
Read every bit of it and totaly agree whit them thank you. Nice post.
no sustain and full kit countered by tabis
He is extremely mana dependent, and his sustain is pathetic. Champions like 
can spam Q on you all day long, while Wukong goes out of mana after a few casts.
Plus his passive is useless early game and especially if you're jungling.
Only wukong mains can say something as retarded as 40 armor is useless. Wukong CURRENTLY needs nerfs and complete rework. Not QOL buffs. His kit is cancerous uninteractive mess that offers two states. Dog shit or overpowered. Stop asking for buffs, start asking for rework.
Sad part is that Neeko's Passive and W would have been perfect on Wukong. Welp, that's sad.
Thank you for a careful, thought-out post. Scaling is a big issue with Wukong.
I want more Ahri x Wukong fan fics.
Someone get on it.
Love playing wukong and love his character and concept. Would really like to see an update for him so that he is seen more and is more interactive and fun to play, hopefully a rework pushing him towards top lane as a bruiser.
I've never been a wukong player but I think he should be mega top-top number 1 priority for a rework. I mean this champ is so outdated in every aspect. Even amumu and volibear received some attention at some point but wukong nothing. It's a bit crazy imo.
my problem with wukong is when he becomes an assassin with no counterplay when his numbers are too good
You forgot that he based on a fictional character that his kit doesn't fit anymore plus neeko being the new better version of the monkey king from the stories
Wukong's pretty good as he is. All he needs is an Ezreal level rework which means changing his least useful abillity(the invisibility).
I'm all for him getting a buff to his passive but I'm tired of people asking for it to be replaced. It's a very good passive.
I dont know WHY are you acting like wukong isnt Broken, im actually climbing a lot with him WTF it's free elo and ppl hate me when im fed, Imagine if they buff him , Jesus all day with this guys complaining, go play another champ if u dont have a brain to use wukong
I truly wish these boards had less toxicity on it so we could see rioters comment on topics like this it would make these kinds of discussions so much more interesting !
I'm sick of being forced to play him as an assassin or burst fighter in order to make him work. As a fighter he straight up sucks, as a disrupting assassin he excels but that's never what his kit was made for. I'd love to see him back in a fighter/bruiser roll
Sure, lets buff champion that has invisibility, leap, AOE Crowd control, and with all that, easily goes around oneshoting champs... Hmmm OK
reads the last part about the lore please, please, just PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T SUMMON THE WUKONGXAHRI WORSHIPPER CALLED XENO501 PLEASSEEEEEE
THE INDEX - 3, 3.5, 2, 1, 4, 5:
3: VERY DATED KIT
I Disagree (to an extent). That does not mean I believe nothing should be changed.
I extremely dislike that some are asking for a new kit. Asking for a brand new kit is asking to change his ENTIRE skill set; a Rework. You're basically looking to play a new champion with the same name 'Wukong'. Are you sure? If this happens, chances are 50% will like the 'New Champ' and the other 50% will miss the old Wukong.
I personally like Wukong's skill set. There does need to be some adjustments though.
-I have to speak out for the Jg Wukongs: although Wukong can dash through walls, it comes at the expense of a ward + a target requirement. There are plenty of other champions found in the jungle that can dash/jump over walls:
Gragas, Graves, Sejuani, Zac, etc.
I would appreciate the ability to do this (see Decoy displacement in 3.5).
3.5: THE W
I Agree. This was VERY well said and I'm glad the other clones were referenced. Neeko's clone was actually everything I thought Wukong's Decoy should have been. Decoy is vital to Wukong's play style.
-I would appreciate an 200-350 unit displacement/blink from Decoy or a MS boost from it.
A couple seasons back, the addition of the spectral animation when Decoying was an IMMENSE debuff.
GAME BUG - When Fiora uses Grand Challenge (R) on Wukong's decoy it can successfully complete Victory Zone.
2: HEAVY FOCUS ON SCALING
Crushing Blow (Q)
10 / 40 / 70 / 100 / 130
Nimbus Cloak (E)
65 / 100 / 135 / 170 / 205 (+ 80% bonus AD)
I Agree. Similar to what is stated above, I just want to point out some other details for Riot & non-wukong mains. Since E scales more in damage, the typical skill level order looks like this:
E, Q, W, E, E, R, [Q at level 7].
As E is leveled first rather than Q, Crushing Blow's damage does not even start scaling until level 7 and only acts as a auto-attack reset. Until then, it is unfortunately left at 10 + 0% AD.
I Agree. Until the team fights go down (where Wukong gets popped for being directly in the center with his R anyways); the majority of the game, the passive is only as strong as a single Cloth Armor.
-If this passive is changed, a more utility-oriented passive would be better (Offensive or Defensive). Passives like these always makes the Summoner take advantage of their ability by playing around it for the maximum effect.
Examples:
Garen/Maokai passive allows Health regen passively/actively for sustain.
Leona/Lux's passive leaves a mark on an enemy that can be consumed to deal damage.
Kennen/Caitlyn's passive lets the 4/7th auto stun/crit the enemy.
4: VISUALS
Not that massive, it's just aesthetics. I feel he has a fair amount of skins, many with great quality.
5: LIMITED LORE
Not that massive. The lore revolves around Master Yi rather than a spinoff of the Chinese Mythology/legend.
Please let me know what you guys think.
