What would happen if Quinn became an energy using champ?

Electro522··1 votes·534 views

Reason I ask this is because her abilities using mana doesn't exactly make sense thematically. Now, sure, there are plenty of champs where using mana makes no sense thematically (such as Alistar Darius Fiora Gangplank etc.), and one or 2 energy champs doesn't make sense as to why they use it (Kennen and Shen specifically), however, Quinn using it may give her an interesting buff (or nerf......I really don't know how it would work out). All of her abilities involve her and Valor....both of which are actual characters. So, why does throwing your pet bird into a fray of enemies in order to gouge out their eyes consume mana, something that is considered in the realm of fantasy to fuel spells and what not? Im sure throwing a bird as big as Valor would make your arms pretty tired (and buff.....for that matter), but the action consuming mana? It just doesn't make sense.

So, my question to all of you and any Rioters that may want to chime in, how much trouble would it cause it Quinn became another energy using champ? Would it cause utter devastation to the game as a whole, or leave Quinn in such an unplayable spot, that she becomes as pointless as Yorick (yes, I went there. Deal with it)?

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Lord Dusteon2 votes

It would require a complete rebalancing of her, likely almost all nerfs. Mana is used when a champion should be constrained in how much they can cast early game but be able to mostly ignore that constraint midgame and completely ignore it lategame. Energy is used when a champion should be constrained in how much they can cast after a combo and generally is little constraint early game and a pretty large constraint mid and lategame.

Problem is Quinn has a rather large cooldown skill that if it costs energy would never be used (W). That gives her 2, medium-low cooldown spells and her ult for energy use. Her ult was reworked to basically be mobility only and thus any energy cost it has is completely negligible: it could be 200 energy and Quinn would not give a fuck because she'll have regained it by the time she got to her destination.

So you now have 2 skills that cost energy. The big question is, why? Those energy costs cannot be high enough to restrain her and her cooldowns are long enough that she would regain all energy naturally before being able to use her skills again anyway. That changes energy and its purpose from "keep this champion from being able to use all their spells forever and force them to be weaker in extended fights" to "there is no weakness she basically has no resource". A Quinn with energy would either need massive nerfs because she is basically resourceless or need such debilitating energy costs that if she does not play perfectly she cannot do anything.

Electro5221 votes

See, this is the response I was looking for. Thank you!

Best KhaZix Void1 votes

she'd be even more obnoxious and hard to lane against in a solo lane than she is currently.

don't try to apply logic to a MOBA, please. Logic should only apply when game health allows it.

Electro5221 votes

I have a feeling you dont like Quinn very much.

I am not trying to make a suggestion, I am simply curious as to how it would affect her.

Best KhaZix Void1 votes

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I have a feeling you dont like Quinn very much.

I am not trying to make a suggestion, I am simply curious as to how it would affect her.

I told you how it would effect her, it would make her laning extremely obnoxious because she can just shove you out with constant Q-passive proc auto spam. You don't have to get defensive.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

What?

Mana isn't meant to fit thematically, it's a balancing method

Electro5221 votes

I understand. Im just curious as to how it would pan out if this were to happen.

Why u Clutch1 votes

I love this idea, and being someone who loves gaming & the whole fantasy touch of it. IT MAKES SENSE. energy fits perfectly, from transforming to throwing her bird, it's a good idea. but its riot.

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