Why Riot is not nerfing Ahri?

PiVoRx·Feb 10, 2016·11 votes·1,924 views

Question is not if shes op, cause shes clearly is. Question is why shes not nerfed yet?

74 Comments

VetalaFeb 10, 20168 votes

Because she's not OP. Everyone else just doesn't really fit the meta like she does. Ahri can kite, poke, and assassinate extremely easy compared to other mid laners. So it's not as if she's overpowered, it's just that her kit is well-rounded. She doesn't do damage without the major AP items, so as long as she isn't fed (much like any other champion) it's not even that bad.

PSA: Skill shots can be dodged, thus reducing their damage [zombie-brand-mindblown]

TrìnítyFeb 10, 20167 votes

{quoted} PSA: Skill shots can be dodged, thus reducing their damage

Lmao xD

BoulderoxFeb 11, 20162 votes

Old Azir well rounded kit.. "could kite, poke, and assassinate extremely easy" could defend, zone, and either burst or sustain damage, self peel, Nerfed patch after patch...

now it's item 3116 =gg

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 11, 20161 votes

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Old well rounded kit.. "could kite, poke, and assassinate extremely easy" could defend, zone, and either burst or sustain damage, self peel, Nerfed patch after patch...

now it's =gg

True.But Lux and Ahri still wasn't nerfed.

BoulderoxFeb 11, 20162 votes

thats what i mean though... they hyper nerfed azir due to him being "too versitile" meanwhile Lux and Ahri are in the same boat... versitility in spades with damage to boot. but 0 nerfs

WalkingInACircleFeb 11, 20162 votes

No, they nerfed Azir because he dominated the hell out of pro games. Lux and Ahri don't.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 11, 20161 votes

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No, they nerfed Azir because he dominated the hell out of pro games. Lux and Ahri don't.

No.Because Lux and Ahri almost picked every game in Lcs.You watch competitive.Ahri,Lux,Liss,Lulu Ahri,Liss,Lux,Lulu Every game.

Maybe some Viktor.

BoulderoxFeb 11, 20161 votes

to be fair, looking at stats from all 4 weeks of season 6 of lcs. out of the 40 matches played Ahri played = 5 times = 12.5% play rate Lux played = 6 times = 15% play rate

between both having playrate of ~1/4 of all matches... that is something honestly...

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 11, 20161 votes

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to be fair, looking at stats from all 4 weeks of season 6 of lcs. out of the 40 matches played Ahri played = 5 times = 12.5% play rate Lux played = 6 times = 15% play rate

between both having playrate of ~1/4 of all matches... that is something honestly...

12.5 and 15 play rate very high.Also we know both op champion.Can not be denied.Also you look Lck.Every game Lux.But 0 nerf.Also Riot gave nerfs to Malz,Swain,Karthus from same reasons.Yes true same,secret reasons.

alasarcherFeb 10, 20165 votes

How exactly is she OP? They already nerfed her enough by removing damage amplification on her E.

PennsFeb 10, 20162 votes

Thats why she became literally the best champ in the game after that patch lel

PiVoRxFeb 10, 20162 votes

But they gave her ms on Q what covered her only weakness.

TeemoXNidaleeFeb 10, 20164 votes

Same reason Lux is still not nerfed

PiVoRxFeb 10, 20164 votes

Unkillable mage that deals shitload of aoe true damage and has tresh hook on laughable cd?

AbyssphereFeb 10, 20164 votes

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Unkillable mage that deals shitload of aoe true damage and has tresh hook on laughable cd?

140 (+ 35% AP). Terrifying.

PiVoRxFeb 10, 20162 votes

Yes it is, its true damage, and its aoe, the only aoe true damage in the game on champion that cannot be killed.

VetalaFeb 10, 20165 votes

Her major damaging spells are skill shots, just dodge them and she does nothing. W and Ult aren't a threat by themselves tbh

PiVoRxFeb 10, 20162 votes

"Just dodge them"? Her abilities are on so low cd its impossible to dodge them all, one charm in the face and you are done.

VetalaFeb 11, 20161 votes

She only gets to that point if she gets ahead and has item/level advantages over you and you decide not to build health/MR in some form. The charm is supposed to be the thematic "kiss of death". That is what Riot has intended it to be since she was released. As long as you don't get hit by that one skill shot, all she does is poke. And the True damage is only when the Q is returning to her, which gives the player plenty of time to react

DrNovaFeb 10, 20164 votes

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Unkillable mage that deals shitload of aoe true damage and has tresh hook on laughable cd?

Not unkillable. Mobile, but squish as hell.

One section of true damage super small aoe on return end of a skillshot, reasonable amount.

Great cc, good CD and Mana cost though, also reasonable.

Git gud. Also, positioning.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20161 votes

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Not unkillable. Mobile, but squish as hell.

One section of true damage super small aoe on return end of a skillshot, reasonable amount.

Great cc, good CD and Mana cost though, also reasonable.

Git gud. Also, positioning.

63% win rate for pro players.Nice killable.

Statistic man here.

VetalaFeb 11, 20161 votes

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63% win rate for pro players.Nice killable.

Statistic man here.

63% win rate has nothing to do with how killable Ahri was in those matches...there are plenty of factors that could have resulted in the win

Mat7itanFeb 10, 20163 votes

How is she OP? You should really support your argument.

CHOPSTICKUHHFeb 10, 20163 votes

Let me just voice my opinion on this topic, I don't think she's and op.

Ahri is a Mage Assassin

A Mage being a high AP damaging dealing champion, who rely on spells and abilities because they don't get the same bang for there buck as AD chanpions do with there AA.

And an Assassin being a champion who can 100-0 or pretty close to 0 you, have good mobility.

She's a Mage Assassin, two classes that are suppose to deal relative high amounts of damage, it's how riot intended to make her clearly, if you deny an ahri early game there is no ahri late game, idk how many games I've played ahri and the jungler is smart and camps the fuuck out of my lane, and because of that they deny my APC potential, her power spike is lvl6 after that if you haven't denied her like any other assassin, then that's just your fault for not knowing how to shut her down.

I will admit her orb hit on the way back DOES NOT NEED TO DOTRUE DAMAGE

ElindiirFeb 10, 20163 votes

Ahri is exactly where she needs to be... She is the definition of where a champ needs to be. She is mobile, but her mobility can be picky. Her ult has a long enough CD and it isn't like Ekko's where it denies all progress made. She is not as mobile as a lot of assassins, and she isn't as damaging as a lot of mages, but she is an assassin with teamfight functionality and a mage with roaming functionality.

PiVoRxFeb 10, 20162 votes

"She is not as mobile as a lot of assassins" lol

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20161 votes

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"She is not as mobile as a lot of assassins" lol

Rofl.The most mobile champion in this game.

ScumbagZedFeb 11, 20161 votes

I believe yasuo and fizz are more reliably mobile as they dont need an ultimate to move around a ton

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 11, 20161 votes

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I believe yasuo and fizz are more reliably mobile as they dont need an ultimate to move around a ton

Yasuo? Only ally minions dash.

ScumbagZedFeb 11, 20161 votes

I meant more as in a teamfight, yasuo and fizz IMO can move around teamfights in an instant far faster than anyone else and are very hard to keep track of (fizz more so as he is untargetable during playful/trickster..... lol)

ElindiirFeb 11, 20161 votes

Think of Yi, or Zed, or Lee, or Kat, or even Akali.. All of these have lots of dashes whereas Ahri's only low CD mobility is movement speed from her Q... Her ult is on a pretty long CD.

ScumbagZedFeb 10, 20163 votes

she has never been insanely strong or insanely weak, she's always been right in the spot of decent damage and great pick potential. Like someone else had said, she has a well rounded kit and deals basically no dmg until very late without expending her entire combo on one person.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20161 votes

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she has never been insanely strong or insanely weak, she's always been right in the spot of decent damage and great pick potential. Like someone else had said, she has a well rounded kit and deals basically no dmg until very late without expending her entire combo on one person.

Please you explain.Why 63% win rate for pro players?

PiVoRxFeb 10, 20162 votes

You cant say "no dmg" about champion that has true damage, and Ahri deals most of it from anything else. its fucking AOE TRUE DAMAGE, the only in game, on a champion that cannot be killed.

Shonicss4Feb 11, 20161 votes

Did you play/fight her when dfg and her +20% damage buff charm was a thing? She's fine now, As an Ahri main I can say that. Just play champs that counter her, Yasuo, Zed, and LB are some of the best counter picks to Ahri.

AHeroNamedHawkeFeb 11, 20162 votes

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Did you play/fight her when dfg and her +20% damage buff charm was a thing? She's fine now, As an Ahri main I can say that. Just play champs that counter her, Yasuo, Zed, and LB are some of the best counter picks to Ahri.

Ahri shits on Leblanc and Yasuo, with a 49% win rate against Zed and Lux

So really the answer here is "play the overpowered mid laner against the overpowered mid laner"

DrNovaFeb 11, 20163 votes

This thread is just full if bad players who's real problems include but not limited to, lack of skill.

Ahri is fi e /thread

I'm done wasting time here as well

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20162 votes

I liked this.Excuse;Skillshots.Skillshot champions mains like this word.

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 10, 20163 votes

Can you like, learn how to type in English please? I realize that you are from a non English speaking country, but at least make the effort to type in the correct language

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20161 votes

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Can you like, learn how to type in English please? I realize that you are from a non English speaking country, but at least make the effort to type in the correct language

At least I have an argument.But this people?

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 10, 20164 votes

They do have one. You are just too blinded by mindless salt hate that you refuse to accept it.

Seriously: Ahri is not overpowered, and, well, you just need to get good!

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20162 votes

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They do have one. You are just too blinded by mindless salt hate that you refuse to accept it.

Seriously: Ahri is not overpowered, and, well, you just need to get good!

Ahri isn't overpowered but Ahri needs nerfs.Because she is low risk,over high rewarding champion.63% win rate for pro players.Not good,not true.

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 10, 20163 votes

If she is not overpowered, there are only two other states she could be in: balanced, and underpowered. If she is underpowered, she definetly doesn't need nerfs, and if she is balanced, she doesn't need anything either.

Can you honestly explain why it is that she needs nerfs for some reason?

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20161 votes

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If she is not overpowered, there are only two other states she could be in: balanced, and underpowered. If she is underpowered, she definetly doesn't need nerfs, and if she is balanced, she doesn't need anything either.

Can you honestly explain why it is that she needs nerfs for some reason?

I explained.Very low risk,over rewarding champion.So she is op.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20161 votes

Also Ahri 63% win rate for pro players.Nice healthy champion. http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Ahri

Too rewarding.Can not be accept.

DrNovaFeb 10, 20162 votes

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Also Ahri 63% win rate for pro players.Nice healthy champion. http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Ahri

Too rewarding.Can not be accept.

Only 1% pick rate, a measly 500 games, so just pro levels mains.

Also her kDa in listed games is average not op.

Noons be misrepresenting stats to bolster weak arguments.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20161 votes

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Only 1% pick rate, a measly 500 games, so just pro levels mains.

Also her kDa in listed games is average not op.

Noons be misrepresenting stats to bolster weak arguments.

All champions have around 1% pick rate for this site.Real arguments.Stay salty.Azir has 0.50% pick rate for this website.Viktor 1% pick rate.But we look to Ahri.63% win rate.Wooow.Very high and very rewarding.Cann't be accept.

DrNovaFeb 10, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XboMieRA,comment-id=000c00000000,timestamp=2016-02-10T23:14:10.032+0000)

All champions have around 1% pick rate for this site.Real arguments.Stay salty.Azir has 0.50% pick rate for this website.Viktor 1% pick rate.But we look to Ahri.63% win rate.Wooow.Very high and very rewarding.Cann't be accept.

You've the only salt here. And ignorant of looking at anything past win rates, which really don't matter on that site because of the very small base of games.

You aren't pro, so stop caring what's going on at pro level.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 10, 20161 votes

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You've the only salt here. And ignorant of looking at anything past win rates, which really don't matter on that site because of the very small base of games.

You aren't pro, so stop caring what's going on at pro level.

Maybe but this game has a lot players,not only pro.You haven't real argument.So Ahri needs nerfs.

VetalaFeb 11, 20161 votes

I have only played Ahri probably like 20 times since she was released and I have to say that she's definitely not OP. Any champ that can keep her still shuts her down hard. 63% win rate at pro level. That sounds about right considering her kit, very mobile, and easy to play from behind because you can just poke and kite. Ahri doesn't have to all-in at every fight. The reason why her win rate is so high is because she's a versatile (can be played in multiple comps) champ with different styles of play depending on how the game is going. She always contributes to the team even when behind which is how LoL should work. It's only a problem if Ahri is somehow the one hard-carrying every game at a pro level. Maybe then they should look into a slight nerf, but as of right now, Ahri is in a healthy, playable, and counterable spot.