Just me or new Rengo feels like a
worse version of J4?
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Asayake 5150glow1 votesBetter jungle clear, better engage (as in from a screen away, if you ult you get movespeed to catch up, if they see J4 on a ward or are already leaving from a screen away, J4 won't catch them), and targeted damage so your main form of damage can't be outplayed as easily.
Also better dueling.
Everything else, yeah he's worse.
Radiant Wukong1 votesJ4 EQ closer is as good as Rengo leap. Give J4 a Youmuu/Deadman and he easily has the move speed to dive the back line with EQ and trap the ADC with R after a forced flash away.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radiant Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XTzaXLMj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T22:59:40.281+0000)
J4 EQ closer is as good as Rengo leap. Give J4 a Youmuu/Deadman and he easily has the move speed to dive the back line with EQ and trap the ADC with R after a forced flash away.
EQ can be missed, Rengo leap cannot.
Radiant Wukong2 votesThe hitbox is so large, unless a mobility spell or flash is used, you shouldn't miss it ever.
Also J4 cannot be CC'd during his dash unlike Rengo who can be stopped mid leap.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radiant Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XTzaXLMj,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T23:05:20.987+0000)
The hitbox is so large, unless a mobility spell or flash is used, you shouldn't miss it ever.
Also J4 cannot be CC'd during his dash unlike Rengo who can be stopped mid leap.
J4 can 100% be CC'd during his dash (EQ)? Hell, I've had it stopped by Ahri's charm. I've stopped it with Quinn's E, and I know for a fact that it can be reliable stopped by Quinn's E from the side.
Plus, J4's E+Q can be juked. It's like a skillshot.
Radiant Wukong1 votesNope, he still completes the dash no matter what. Even says it in ability description and as a frequent user I've experienced this.
You can even EQ out of Morgana bind if snared.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radiant Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XTzaXLMj,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-11T00:38:32.159+0000)
Nope, he still completes the dash no matter what. Even says it in ability description and as a frequent user I've experienced this.
You can even EQ out of Morgana bind if snared.
J4 E+Q is like a Blitz pull. That's why it can be used while snared.
Snares and stuns don't stop dashes anyway, with the exception of Yasuo and Veigar.
Knockups and displacements, on the other hand, will fuck over any dash, including J4's.
I have evidence from the Quinnmains subreddit that it's possible to cancel J4's E+Q by E'ing him from the side.
Radiant Wukong1 votesHaven't had it happen to me yet
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radiant Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XTzaXLMj,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-11T01:21:55.774+0000)
Haven't had it happen to me yet
Then stop banning Yasuo :P
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