Why does Akali get mechanically oppressed but others don’t?

50CaliberHecate··4 votes·1,331 views

She had her Obscurity removed, her stun, AND her Q heal. Next thing you know, she’s not even gonna have a passive.

But Pyke can get 600 gold from Ult, Senna gets infinite Range, and Morde literally can make you unable to escape.

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The thigh guy7 votes

Because none of them have 3 unconditional dashes and a kit that says “I get to play the game and you get to watch”

50CaliberHecate4 votes

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Because none of them have 3 unconditional dashes and a kit that says “I get to play the game and you get to watch”

Lol that’s such a dumb argument. Ahri has 3 dashes? Talon can literally jump over walls? Kat can E all over the place? Pyke has a dash + stun AND a free escape from his invisibility? Kai’sa can literally ult to you across the map?

Like if they are gonna gut one champ for unbalanced behavior, they need to gut others. It’s ridiculous.

Herethicc3 votes

You're blaming the wrong people. The real problem is CertainlyT and his garbage designs: Zyra Zoe Thresh Yasuo Kalista

The man simply cannot design for this game, yet they don't fire him/move to another department. His reworks are known for extreme toxicity and pure annoyance.

You just simply don't want to play against his shit. Getting turret dove without you saying a thing? Vladimir getting outregened by a nobody edgy %%%% ninja thingy? And many more. cT's fault not riot... Riot just does what the community asks (SOMETIMES, BECAUSE THE CLIENT IS STILL SHIT)

MrEnds1 votes

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You're blaming the wrong people. The real problem is CertainlyT and his garbage designs: Zyra Zoe Thresh Yasuo Kalista

The man simply cannot design for this game, yet they don't fire him/move to another department. His reworks are known for extreme toxicity and pure annoyance.

You just simply don't want to play against his shit. Getting turret dove without you saying a thing? Vladimir getting outregened by a nobody edgy %%%% ninja thingy? And many more. cT's fault not riot... Riot just does what the community asks (SOMETIMES, BECAUSE THE CLIENT IS STILL SHIT)

the guy makes good designs to have fun playing but horrible designs to play against

Herethicc1 votes

Agreed

The thigh guy2 votes

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Lol that’s such a dumb argument. Ahri has 3 dashes? Talon can literally jump over walls? Kat can E all over the place? Pyke has a dash + stun AND a free escape from his invisibility? Kai’sa can literally ult to you across the map?

Like if they are gonna gut one champ for unbalanced behavior, they need to gut others. It’s ridiculous.

Ahri has 3 dashes that require her to use one ability on a long cooldown.

And talons have a requirement. Akali does not.

Kat requires daggers. Akali does not.

Pyke has 1 dash. Not fucking 3.

Kai’sa has 1 dash. Not fucking 3.

Kawaii Godzilla3 votes

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BBKong1 votes

She's not the only champ that's been gutted, you're cherrypicking. Her kit was unhealthy, so they removed strong things from it until it wasn't as unhealthy (debatable if it still is unhealthy currently but I won't get into that).

Pyke has a dash + stun AND a free escape from his invisibility

Pyke's stealth is only camouflage, he has a single dash that's also his main engage tool (unless you count his ult as a dash). His ult isn't as versatile as akali's - they're both executes, but akali gets 2 dashes from it for repositioning, it's more difficult to dodge, she has 2 dashes on her E (one guaranteed one situational) and FULL STEALTH that can be used IN COMBAT. Pyke doesn't get that luxury so he gets the hook, the stun, and the ult resets on kill (which is a bit busted but it's the point of the character really).

Not to mention akali's main damage spell is very low cooldown and her large damage passive is essentially 0 cooldown.

You can't argue that new akali design wasn't healthy before they took things out, even if she takes skill. Many champs have a lot of strengths in their kit, she just had too many so we ripped them out until people didn't hate her as much.

And she's still being played relatively frequently unlike most gutted champions!

Edit: Oh to be clear, I do think pyke double ult gold for himself should be lowered (maybe 150 bonus instead of 300? or none is fine by me) but he was the easiest example for me to express.

Tormyth1 votes

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She had her Obscurity removed, her stun, AND her Q heal. Next thing you know, she’s not even gonna have a passive.

But Pyke can get 600 gold from Ult, Senna gets infinite Range, and Morde literally can make you unable to escape.

Good morning/ afternoon! hope your day is going well, Mordekaisers ult can be removed with quicksilver sash by the way.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

Because her kit is horribly designed. Despite all of the mechanics they've taken away she's still problematic.

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