what am i expected to build against camille?

Best princess EU··29 votes·5,961 views

seriously what the fuck?

i build armor and her Q removes half of my hp i build hp and her ulti+E attack speed shred me fast

so i have to build armor+hp+magic resistance?

what's going on why riot no longer cares about those things?

49 Comments

IA9hRfpP5q22 votes

Here is Camille's weakness according to the official page:

Like other champs that demand razor-sharp ability executions, Camille is noticeably less effective in the hands of an unpracticed player

Balance in 2017/2016 LUL

Oakleaf Ranger1 votes

lul

Sinserta14 votes

You don't. You just accept no matter what you build, her true damage will kill you.

BIackfox7 votes

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You don't. You just accept no matter what you build, her true damage will kill you.

At least it can't crit

Eedat2 votes

Fun fact: when she was first put the PBE it could crit :^)

Rebonack3 votes

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Fun fact: when she was first put the PBE it could crit :^)

I saw some videos of that. Had her literally one-shotting people with a full build. Funny stuff.

doiminat0r36002 votes

It can, however, apply TD to the sheen effects of item 3078

Pale Pirate7 votes

You need to build a great wall to stop her from reaching you.

Ïnsidious11 votes

she can hookshot over it though

Looknook8 votes

Then you didn't build it big enough.

Klatumatu2 votes

Taliyah approves

Chembaron Yamada6 votes

Armor still helps alot against Camille. Camille is dealing less true damage in total in a game than Darius or Irelia.

Melledoneus5 votes

Shen This guy can laugh at her ultimate by pressing W. For a bit. Then it's up to you to punish her for getting close to you.

Remember: If you have a lot of resistance but still getting chunked, get HP. I'm talking Warmog's level of HP. True damage can't be reduced, but at least hers isn't %HP true damage.

Kitty Clarissa3 votes

Also shen does mixed damage which throws her off.

Melledoneus2 votes

Precisely. Also, whoever downvoted you must not know how Shen's Q works haha.

Here, have an upvote.

SrbLud4 votes

item 3742 item 3157 item 3025 item 3116 item 3053 Not great together but having two or more ( depending on your pick ) will help a lot against her. Make it a reasonable build.

Basically you want the slows on her and some adittionall speed boosts for you. She does shred trough armor but the items are there for the utility mostly.

JavelinJoe4 votes

item 3143 helps too with the active

DeathBot6663 votes

Build AP.

That way it means you're mid and won't have to deal with her as much.

Adriqnohee2 votes

Rumble cries in the corner.

SH Azykan2 votes

she has a 1.5 second window to get off that true damage, still build armor/hp vs her and use any cc/mobility to avoid her for the 1.5 second window and she loses most of her damage as almost none build any pen. when people do it to me is when I lose trades hard, if they let me get it off its a different story though.

Elite4Runner1 votes

What champion were you playing as?

Ralanr1 votes

As a tank? Build health and armor (yes her second Q will bypass it but you'll reduce the damage of her other abilities).

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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As a tank? Build health and armor (yes her second Q will bypass it but you'll reduce the damage of her other abilities).

Health just makes her R do more damage, and armor doesn't reduce that.

TheHappyReaperz1 votes

If your someone who can fight her, IE a juggernaut or bruiser, build damage, and force her into extended trades. If your a tank, accept the fact that you got countered, hunker down, and prioritize regarding what's hurting the most.

twochain21 votes

Sterak's Gage will do you wonders my friend.

Yaskamasandwich1 votes

I find a zzrot portal helps. Even with the nerfs it still helps out since in this case you're not there to push but to hunker down. Zzrot helps freeze the lane closer to your turret and if she freezes on her side, consider ganking other lanes, or farm the top part of the jungle while your portal slows her push. Usually the junglers are too busy ganking the bottom half to even farm the top half of the jungle.

Edit: forgot to mention this is only if you're a tank, or a champ whom can use the portal, or if you're loosing. Sure it's not part of your core build or something but it helps not only save your life early game, but helps your team out greatly late game. Wether it be holding off a save or sieging it helps out a lot.

Kaioko1 votes

You build the same thing you would against Fiora or a Vayne -- damage to kill her. There's no real means of countering a champion with defenses when they've got good base damages, true damage and % health damage.

If you ever see a Camille trap a Fiora/Darius/Renekton in her ultimate you see quickly that she's suddenly not that big of a threat but it's because those champions have the tools to kill her.

MissingKayo1 votes

If you're a carry, then stay with your team. If you're the tank, then build armor and CC her before she does her Q2. Most of her damage is still physical. Her legs glow when her Q2 is ready and she only has a short duration before it disappears.

Elisheva1 votes

^She's good at 1v1 dueling (unless you feed her.) And she's good at catching people out. Teamplay shuts her down.

notice me Sin pi1 votes

http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/picksandbans.php?season=S7&tournament=ALL&patch=7.1.

i think we can expect more nerfs on Camille based on this info (5 picks, 85 bans, 100% presence rate, 80% win rate in s7 LCS)

DarkRitual1 votes

Some movespeed to get out of her arc. Positioning.

You can Zhonya's to cancel her ult activation, if timed right.

Ultîma1 votes

Randuin's omen is the most efficient item against her; it gives you a fair amount of armour and health, and the passive means her attack-speed gets reduced for hitting you. Since the majority of her damage is dealt using auto-attacks it is the optimal defense item against her by a long shot.

Vesemir1 votes

Frozen is better IMO. Rands is good against champs who relies on critting.

NichtHurz1 votes

Really depends I guess. Randuins can be build as a basic tank item, since it gives HP+Armor+AS slow+Crit dmg reduction and an active which grants you bonus utility. Frozen Heart should be like the 3rd item (not including boots) in most cases, since you need something to back up the armor it grants. Randuins is the better initial choice in most situation. Later on in the game or if you've already gotten plenty HP Frozen Heart becomes an option.

Ultîma1 votes

My reasoning is that Frozen will not mitigate Camille's true damage, whereas the health on Randuin's will. It's the same reason why it's good against Fiora; the combination of health and armour will always be better than straight-up defense against AD.

doiminat0r36001 votes

If she decides to max Q, build HP. If she decides to max E, build Armor.

Not every game is the same.

Adriqnohee1 votes

You build damage and murder her before she murders you, but that's the Renekton in me speaking so take it with a grain of salt.

Spoofghoul1 votes

revive tp

quints of revival

CancerBasedGod1 votes

CC or die.

salty testi1 votes

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Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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reminds me of Irelia

Irelia's only magic damage is her E? 0_o

Neither does she have 2 cases of %max health damage.

woodvsmurph1 votes

she's weaker to mixed damage champs: kayle, jax, etc. She can get beat early by some equally good 1v1 champs or early game bullies. If you don't fall in either of those categories, or even if you do it's best to get jungle help early. A shut down camille is good news for everyone on your team -- better than a 4/0/0 adc who gets 1 shot by the enemy camille. So bring your cc and hold out for good jungle ganks... or play lane bully and/or mixed damage champ and just don't snowball her. I have 1v1 beat camille with 0 help vs a decent player (for my rank) as both Kayle and Renekton although I am sure others work. Renek is decent because you can either kite out of her ranged harass and her stun, or you can trade stuns and do more damage afterwards early game. Kayle has the mixed damage to make camille shield less useful and can hard punish when she engages if she can't just delete you. q slow and e ranged autos with mixed damage means she eats more damage from you while backing away to wait on cd's than what she dealt to you when she tried to stun combo you to chunk you out. Level 6, your ult is... well, you are kayle. Plus you have 0 pressure to win lane because of how well you scale into mid/late game whereas camille kinda wants a lead.

Danjeng1 votes

What do you build against Dr. Mundo? His Q does % current hp magic damage, while his E gives him a big AD steroid. How about Garen? He shreds through armor with cleaver and E, and his ult does % missing magic damage, or true damage if you are the villain. Or Kayle? She shreds through magic, armor, and health alike with her consistent hybrid damage.

Latex Choker1 votes

The damage from her ult is so negligible that even if you stack nothing but HP it wouldn't matter. Armor + HP is the most effective way to counterbuild Camille, along with saving your CC for her Q2.

DoktorKaiser1 votes

She currently has nerfs on all 4 skills on PBE, lets pray to RITO gods that none of them get cancelled.

Narasimha1 votes

Damage and sustain. You're not going to beat her by tanking her out. You beat her by outdueling her. Her sustain is good only if she lands the E. Stick to her, and she can't do that. Hence why champions like Xin, Fiora, Trynd, Irelia, etc do well against her.

PoltergeistZ1 votes

Malphite is our savior

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