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Can we make Eve's W do damage to champions if fully charged please?

XJ99999999999999·12/22/2019, 1:06:46 AM·2 votes·1,911 views

It just feels terrible to use and most of the time it's better to Q W for the slow instead of W'ing the target before you are in range, on top of waiting for the thing to fully charge. It's better to get off your damage as soon as they know where you are as an assassin instead of putting a mark, waiting 2.5 seconds, giving away that you are there and waiting, and potentially just making them get away or going to allies. Early-mid game, you only "lose" 2-10% damage max in exchange of doing the combo instantly, letting you dart out of combat and reposition, waiting on cooldowns, which is the better move 95% of the time.

It is just a super telegraph'd W and due to all the mobility and how small the map is, it's usually the wrong choice to use the W from far away and wait for it to charge. The only time you ever wait for it to charge is to zone someone out of a fight or to scare them away from your allies, kinda like a mind game thing.

I'm not asking for a huge buff to it. It could have something like 20-25 damage a rank (20-40-60-80-100 or 25-50-75-100-125) and some type of AP ratio, even like 10%. Nothing big, but it just feels bad as a skill to use, especially in a meta where no one builds defensives, making the 25-35% magic resist shred pretty pointless and unrewarding to use.

It's just one of those skills that are REALLY good against monsters, makes you think it does a ton of damage, but against champions it does pretty much nothing until super mega late game and you are against someone building MR, which again, is pretty rare and even not even needed to do. I'd like it if her W had the same feeling against champions that it does on monsters and is the mark of death type of ability (kinda like ahris charm).

It's that or give it some type of damage amp. It's just the 25-35% magic resist shred isn't really that much in most games (as tanks aren't played, and if they are, they stack HP). Just hard to use skill, hard to even get off, and little reward for doing so.

14 Comments

MarijaCarry12/22/2019, 2:21:29 AM3 votes

Will you hit rank 1 if they do so?

Aamano12/22/2019, 2:25:11 AM3 votes

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It just feels terrible to use

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Zyniya12/22/2019, 1:10:30 AM2 votes

I took Eve sup a few times it's crazy how strong the mind game W is xD waiting for it to charge is also a good way to try to burn a flash beyond that I tend to only find it really useful when clearing the buffs lol

Katarina Gremοry12/22/2019, 3:09:43 AM2 votes

i guess free voidstaff passive just isnt good :^) and league needs more damage on invisible assassins like eve. kekw feels like a shaco main inspired thread.

nm101012/22/2019, 4:00:32 AM1 votes

You should really do the math on the pen it gives. It is worth much more than some base damage.

XJ9999999999999912/22/2019, 8:02:15 AM1 votes

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You should really do the math on the pen it gives. It is worth much more than some base damage.

25-35%, on targets that have 30-50 MR. wow sounds good thats like 3--6% more dmg sounds broken. Instead of having E deal more damage, resulting in faster clears and more bursty on targets if you happen to not be able to use the W fully. Maxing E gives a little less if not the same dmg a fully charged W gives during the early-mid game. She goes in an out of combat. If you are out for 4 seconds, it refreshes her E and gives her the empowered version, giving more value to maxing E 2nd.

People used to max W second for a little while but quickly reallized how garbage her W is and how unrealistic it is to get off. It's best used for the slow in most situations.

A big thing that makes it garbage is also the fact people can get free 30% tenacity from runes on a tree that damage dealers take. So your 1 second CC is now .7 seconds when you could have just Q W'd and got the same duration in a 65% slow, which is pretty much a root at that point.

Ever since eve's release, I've always said her W is her most underwhelming part of her kit. It still stands today.