Can we make Marksmen's gameplay no longer "Casino simulation"?

D357R0Y3R·Dec 2, 2018·3 votes·1,575 views

Once again i'm fucking done Ashe vs Jhin

I use ult on him, had Q ready and used it to kill him Suddenly he gets 4 crits and puts me on 20% hp while he's 40%

I look at his items, GREAT so 30% crit made him able to crit 4 times, 2 times in a row without counting the 1st and 4th crit that are guaranted

Why has this not been done yet? make crit %AD amplification on autoattacks, enemy adc winning duel because of better luck has been cancer since the begining of the game.

The reason I like playing Ashe is because of how her passive makes crit just like how it should be in a competitive game. And I fucking despise playing other adcs depending on crit especially because one crit at the right time combined with her passive can make her win the game.

** dude this is cancer what the fuck

9 Comments

iiGazeiiDec 2, 20183 votes

Personally, I agree. RNG shouldn't be in a competitive game, period.

Imagine if every single champion had a built in three-auto passive for crits that reset out of combat. If you attack three times without leaving combat in between those attacks, the third auto is a crit. However, most champions have a very low critical damage multiplier, so it doesn't do much unless you are a crit-focused champion.

Instead of increasing crit chance, crit items would increase the critical damage multiplier by a percentage, so champions with a low base crit damage (i.e., champions who aren't supposed to build crit) would get far less value out of crit items than those with a high base crit multiplier.

No RNG. No random upfront burst. Predictable damage increases that reward you for interacting with your opponent and trading favorably.

MrFawknSunshineDec 2, 20181 votes

well stupid question did he hit you with the 4th shot of his passive ?

The fourth attack will critically strike for 15 / 20 / 25% of the target's missing health

D357R0Y3RDec 2, 20181 votes

He hit me with all the attacks, dealing more damage to me than I did when I should have won because I managed the fight better

All because of Casino giving him 2 crits with 30% chance crit

MrFawknSunshineDec 2, 20182 votes

well what typically wins him the fights is the 4th shot of the passive and if he does hit that IT CRITS so maybe that is how he got 2 crits on you. so its not that he crit twice cuz of 30% rng crit chance, he crit once cuz of the rng crit chance and the 2nd crit on the 4th shot passive

theChibiTinaDec 2, 20182 votes

If i read it correctly, Jhin got guaranteed first crit from stormrazor, then two more crits from luck on a 30% chance, and then a guaranteed crit from passive. So he got 4 crits in a row (two being sheer luck and one his %missing hp crit). OP would have won fight if it wasn't for the luck crits. I think that's what OP is getting at, but please don't quote me on this.

LTK KoRoDec 2, 20181 votes

Crits being a %AD amplification sounds fun until guys like Rengar lay their hands on it tbh

D357R0Y3RDec 2, 20181 votes

AD amplification on hit

not AD amplification as "AD rabadon"

macspamDec 2, 20181 votes

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Crits being a %AD amplification sounds fun until guys like Rengar lay their hands on it tbh

rengar just builds stormrazor, maybe static shiv which by this logic would still give him a 50% damage boost (since it crits for 150% damage), so I don't see how i it would be different from now.

Crispy0SnakeDec 2, 20181 votes

You don't use ashe R point blank because the stun duration is really low, ashe is also a tank shredder, she's not meant to 1v1 jhin outside of lane because he's good at killing squishy targets.