So is riot going to aknowledge that sion current stats are completely broken

Rexxiee··6 votes·2,019 views

Or are they going to keep a blind eye on it because someone on live design team mains him?

15% pick rate, highest in top lane 56% win rate, highest in top lane

At this point either a hotfix would have already happened (like singed, and his pickrate was 8% only), or we'd see some significant nerfs on pbe atleast, nether has happened, not even a rioter to say "we know hes broken right now, looking for ways to nerf him".

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Ahristocats3 votes

don't think they will

I remember several cases where Riot took 2 or 3 months to act

Ivern kept 60% win rate for like 2 months before nerfs Lulu kept insane stats tide to 70% ban rate and took 3 months to be nerfed

i predict the same thing will happen to Sion

ThePikol3 votes

But is Sion really that strong? Is he frustrating to play? Do you think he does too much dmg or maybe is he too tanky? Because I personally don't. His skills are easy to read, he's not frustrating to play against. I think he's quite "fair". Maybe his winrate is a little high but what exactly is wrong with him?

Rexxiee2 votes

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But is Sion really that strong? Is he frustrating to play? Do you think he does too much dmg or maybe is he too tanky? Because I personally don't. His skills are easy to read, he's not frustrating to play against. I think he's quite "fair". Maybe his winrate is a little high but what exactly is wrong with him?

Yes he is, he is beating counters now.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

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Yes he is, he is beating counters now.

You're just trolling if you're not even giving out legit answers instead of "HE STRONG CZ I SAID SO".

Rexxiee1 votes

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You're just trolling if you're not even giving out legit answers instead of "HE STRONG CZ I SAID SO".

Do i really have to explain?

Ive experienced it myself, ive played this patch already a gnar vs sion lane where i counter picked him as the second pick (he picked first).

I get a kill off a gank, then he hits lvl 6 and kills me in the all in while im up 500 gold as a counter, normally by this point i should be crushing him like before, not losing.

His E is too easy to hit while doing too much damage for how spammable it is, and since hes overtuned he doesnt even need to fully charge the Q, just spam e, W your harass and double tap Q to win every lane.

And hes not just strong because i said so, ive literally linked the data that PROVES that hes completely broken atm.

Ahristocats4 votes

he can't lose lane ROFL

his hardest counters have 49% win rate against him he just spams E over and over and it deals a ton of damage for little mana

you lost MR runes, he gained comet scorch mana flow band the only reason it was balanced until now is that half of the fucking time it didn't work due to the bug that got fixed

why do you think that suddenly Sion is spammed in lcs/lck while being pick/ban in almost every game?

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Because like I said in my other comment, a bunch of people constantly claimed Sion being an okay champion for having a bunch of delayed abilities. So I would assume they would have plenty of time dodging/interrupting him, hence why Sion wasn't used to be such a popular champion in the past.

Seeing as how people jumped the gun & exclaiming Sion being OP is just out of the blue.

Ahristocats3 votes

i'm not the kind of dude who jumps into a bandwagon if something is op it has to have a reason that should be explained

in the past, i was almost never ok with people claiming that some champions are op because most of the time they're op in low elo without being op in high elo (ie: twitch kata riven)

and often, a champ in high elo would be disgusting while no one gives a fuck on the boards (ie: tahm kench braum camille)

but sion, when dude became pick/ban in lcs this should tell you that even high elo has a problem with him he just can't lose lane like i said

and the boards would not jump in the sion op bandwagon but rather in the "sion is a healthy design therefore he can never be op and i enjoy playing against him" bandwagon

InTheory1 votes

i'm not the kind of dude who jumps into a bandwagon

rofl

paisy1 votes

He dominates lane with max E and comet

DarwinTheory3 votes

I really wish people on this forum would stop saying SIONS abilities are telegraphed and easy to dodge blah blah.

That isn't the issue.

At lvl 2 a Sion Q and E combo can chunk you for 30% at least.

With resolve tree and W he gets very tanky early. Far quicker than anyone else bar chogath.

He can harass with E.

His W shield mitigates damage allowing him time to CC you and disengage without taking permanent health loss.

His Q alone is arranged minion wave clearer.

He can push the wave under your tower and use W to take tower aggro while he Qs and Es you.

All that said I don't think Sion is broken overall. He's just so strong because of the rune system and damage creep. Even as Garen he destroys me. My E is useless early. What can I do? To get to him as a melee I need move around minions and even Q is telegraphed and useless. He just Es me and Qs me from safety behind minions, has insane damage early and is unkillable late.

You don't really beat Sion you just hope your jungler has the brains to try and help you survive the early.

Potchikir2 votes

i hope they change him full tank sion bursting everyone isnt fun

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

I'm just gonna quote back what I said in your previous Sion thread:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/zyptP6fE-sion-pickrate-up-to-almost-15-wr-still-ranging-between-5556?comment=0004

I'm sorry, but didn't everyone said that Sion was okay because most of his spells were delayed & easily interruptable?

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