TFW you stomp your top lane opponent so hard (3/0, +80cs on him) he ragequits

ValyrianBlade·Jan 5, 2017·2 votes·700 views

But the enemy ADC is already 12/1 at 10min and carries anyways...

Seriously... this sucks.

7 Comments

Asayake 5150glowJan 5, 20171 votes

Did you forget to roam bot and help your mid and jungler gank?

It's already a 4v4 down there, we all know that in teamfights numbers are a big advantage.

ValyrianBladeJan 5, 20171 votes

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Did you forget to roam bot and help your mid and jungler gank?

It's already a 4v4 down there, we all know that in teamfights numbers are a big advantage.

/s

At 10 minutes.

Not sure if you saw that part.

How many times can I roam bot pre-10min?

And the enemy jungler and mid never went bot. Bot lane just died repeatedly. Then our jungle and mid went bot and lost the 2v4 4-0.

Then once we had the 5v4 I told them to just wait to see Ezreal then clear wherever he isn't. Our ADC listened at least. Mid/Jg/Supp didn't - repeatedly died to him and we lost 2 inhibs pre-20min because Vayne and I couldn't defend 2v4 against an ezreal who literally had 4x more damage than the next highest on the map.

Asayake 5150glowJan 5, 20171 votes

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At 10 minutes.

Not sure if you saw that part.

How many times can I roam bot pre-10min?

And the enemy jungler and mid never went bot. Bot lane just died repeatedly. Then our jungle and mid went bot and lost the 2v4 4-0.

Then once we had the 5v4 I told them to just wait to see Ezreal then clear wherever he isn't. Our ADC listened at least. Mid/Jg/Supp didn't - repeatedly died to him and we lost 2 inhibs pre-20min because Vayne and I couldn't defend 2v4 against an ezreal who literally had 4x more damage than the next highest on the map.

Once or twice.

But honestly my comments were more about how the boards keep referencing how bot keeps getting dived over and over by the opposing jungle and mid.

Tell your jungler and mid to go bot, ('and' is important) and take the free kills and tower. Or just have a bot lane which is better at turtling.

ValyrianBladeJan 5, 20171 votes

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Once or twice.

But honestly most comments were more about how the boards keep referencing how bot keeps getting dived over and over by the opposing jungle and mid.

Tell your jungler and mid to go bot, ('and' is important) and take the free kills and tower. Or just have a bot lane which is better at turtling.

Yes, to be fair I should have seen the "boards circle jerk" coming.

I honestly don't see the whole bot lane thing all that often. If this is what people have to deal with all the time, man that sucks. For me, it's one isolated incident. It's just depressing because I literally have under a 33% win rate on my two best champs (6-12 on J4, 2-5 on Quinn) and I've gotten fed on them in nearly every one of those games.

Which means that I'm carrying about 32% of my games on them, and trying to carry but failing in 68%. Shouldn't there be 50% where I get carried?

Unfortunately I'm going to have to play around 300 games before the luck evens out...

Asayake 5150glowJan 5, 20171 votes

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Yes, to be fair I should have seen the "boards circle jerk" coming.

I honestly don't see the whole bot lane thing all that often. If this is what people have to deal with all the time, man that sucks. For me, it's one isolated incident. It's just depressing because I literally have under a 33% win rate on my two best champs (6-12 on J4, 2-5 on Quinn) and I've gotten fed on them in nearly every one of those games.

Which means that I'm carrying about 32% of my games on them, and trying to carry but failing in 68%. Shouldn't there be 50% where I get carried?

Unfortunately I'm going to have to play around 300 games before the luck evens out...

Quinn is great for roaming, I'd rec trying to head bot at lvl 6/7, preferably with your jungler. Jarvan should be able to carry you amazingly, and if ahead go for damage (Rav Hydra into Lethality) and lifesteal, which lets you snowball harder. You can always sell your items and be a tank once you've oneshot the enemy carries a few times, and your own carries are no longer broke and useless.

ValyrianBladeJan 5, 20171 votes

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Quinn is great for roaming, I'd rec trying to head bot at lvl 6/7, preferably with your jungler. Jarvan should be able to carry you amazingly, and if ahead go for damage (Rav Hydra into Lethality) and lifesteal, which lets you snowball harder. You can always sell your items and be a tank once you've oneshot the enemy carries a few times, and your own carries are no longer broke and useless.

Believe me I know.

My last Quinn game I went 20/5. I had 100% kill participation to the point kills were 12-12 and I was 7/0/5. Some teams just can't be carried. You can only be in one of the three lanes at a time, and wherever I show up my allies who aren't there die elsewhere. Also hard when the enemy team has multiple members that can focus you down (Orianna and Jax both outright focussing me).

J4 should be able to carry and whenever I have a halfway competent team I wreck late game. I guess I should go for more damage early - I need to get used to playing at this lower elo. I've played him against plats/diamonds most of the time so moving to flex queue and playing with Bronzies is a joke... Going item 3071 item 3111 item 3742 as my core build just doesn't seem to cut it at this elo. My big problem is that in season 5 when I started playing J4 top I was very successful (6-0) by playing a more passive lane and scaling in to a 40% CDR bruiser who could engage anything, escape anything, and get most 1v1 kills. In season 6 I was a bit cockier and went harder in lane and did really poorly on him. I went back to what worked in the past (playing a more passive lane and winning with good farm and a stronger late game) and it served me well against the plats/diamonds I play with in normals. Coming back to a low rank though, it really doesn't seem to work there at all. Either the team is okay and we stomp, or most of the time someone on the team feeds and I can't carry with only a few kills and a large CS lead.

I feel like top is the hardest role to carry from in low elo, because it seems top laners in low elo either know how to not feed someone to 1v5 status, or are just too tanky naturally that they don't do it. Either way, mid or ADC or Jg can often get a huge lead (I've only played 8 games of Ahri and I've been ridiculously fed more games there than I have in top lane even though I play better up there) and tops can only seem to get 1-3 kills early.