Many older champs would be more fun if 1 or 2 of their spells had additional ability on recast

Valhalla Rising·Jan 28, 2019·8 votes·3,544 views

Example, new Aatrox Q is practically 3 spells, Sylas E is practically 2 spells., and these champs feel less one tricky/dimensional and more mechanical/fun than if it was just one.

I understand slight nerfs would have to be made to make room for such additions but that's the point of removing the "one" dimensional aspect of a champion.

Just seems easier than full reworks as many one trick/dimensional champs aren't bad so much as boring.

Also basic stuff like enhancement spells (Malphite W) can straight up be replaced with a more mechanical version.

6 Comments

SyrileJan 28, 20193 votes

Some of them could do with this upgrade without a nerf to be honest. However, if you overload them with too much it will be horrible, like Akali, Aatrox, etc.

And to a lot of people, the appeal of playing those champions is that they are simple, straightfoward, and somewhat strong in what they do. Annie mains tend to be very protective of her, for example. I personally find her one of the most boring champions in the game.

Critmaster GarenJan 28, 20193 votes

Garen starts spinning upon pressing e.

recasting the ability lets him take off the ground and fly over walls like a helicopter.

hrooza dota Jan 28, 20192 votes

casting Q in helicopter mode will make him do a massive aoe damage under him and silence all hit units in the area

Critmaster GarenJan 28, 20193 votes

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casting Q in helicopter mode will make him do a massive aoe damage under him and silence all hit units in the area

i like the way you think.

TSM PolarbearJan 28, 20192 votes

over the years they are just adding way to much to reworked/new champions kits while also not taking the time to see if the champions they want to make are already in the game and just need a rework and it fucks over the past created champions and is creating a very small pool of viable meta champions that just shits on everyone else its gotten kinda out of hand.

Zoe was just a better version of mid nidalee they could have reworked nidalee wasn't her direction to throw a projectile that does a ton of dmg based on how far it traveled and follow up in cougar form since zoe does it better and just needs to follow up with an aa and has her own setup like sleepy bubble that part of nidalee becomes mediocre.

This is why you are seeing champions getting more reworks after rework and tweaks after tweaks because the everything you need in one champion sells more then the champion you need have a learning curve on or have a jungler help you with a gank for setup because the game cant keep up with itself its a fucked up cycle that caters to casuals who don't want to learn what the jungler does because you might need his help or how can i play this match up to where i can live because i don't have an escape. Those mental question that force you to be better at the game are becoming less needed.

PhDs NutsJan 28, 20191 votes

While fun to play, these designs are destroying the game because they're worse to play against. Just look at Sylas. He has everything in his kit except for stealth and true damage. He even has your ult. Camille has everything except stealth in her kit, an engage range of like 2000 units with a stun on it for good measure, and can negate your ult with hers. Akali has everything except true damage in her kit and can laugh at you under your own tower before killing you (which they're finally changing).