Are you sure Jhin+guinsoos damage is a bug? Or does guinsoos just give 34% bonus ad now?

Professor Ward·Apr 3, 2018·3 votes·802 views

Im seriously wondering, is the item too strong on him or is there an actual bug effecting the damage output?!?

Sub-optimal ad heavy jhin builds were hitting 1k+ ad before, so im wondering if this is a bug or the math is just getting too big. Lemmeknow

Edit: these are ad stats pulled from guinsoos, not sure exactly if it ends up being 34%, 27%, or something else, but its a ton of bonus ad.

PASSIVE: Basic attacks deal 5 (+ 10% bonus AD) UNIQUE: ** Basic attacks grant 4% bonus AD, stacking up to 6 times, granting a maximum of 24% bonus AD**

10 Comments

Akali is SO HOTApr 3, 20183 votes

There is a recursive loop bug that gives him more AD than he should be getting.

undesirable teamApr 3, 20181 votes

not a bug, just scales stupidly well with jhin's passive.

Professor WardApr 3, 20182 votes

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not a bug, just scales stupidly well with jhin's passive.

this is what i thought.

Sp33d Zer0Apr 3, 20181 votes

It doesn't give 34% AD, but it gives him a total attack speed steroid. Because his AD scales with attack speed, and a crit jhin will build RFC and USUALLY Shiv, that with guinsoos is giving him a lot of attack speed + the bonus to total attack speed = AD scaling on two different fronts.

Professor WardApr 3, 20181 votes

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It doesn't give 34% AD, but it gives him a total attack speed steroid. Because his AD scales with attack speed, and a crit jhin will build RFC and USUALLY Shiv, that with guinsoos is giving him a lot of attack speed + the bonus to total attack speed = AD scaling on two different fronts.

PASSIVE: Basic attacks deal 5 (+ 10% bonus AD) UNIQUE: Basic attacks grant 4% bonus AD, stacking up to 6 times, granting a maximum of 24% bonus AD

It gives him a ton of bonus ad, the attack speed is just a cherry on top.

Sp33d Zer0Apr 4, 20181 votes

Yes, but the on hit damage is not directly AD scaling and doesn't funnel into his abilities or crits.

PhoneixflareApr 3, 20181 votes

they need to keep this functionality. Jhin isnt really that good otherwise.

Sp33d Zer0Apr 4, 20181 votes

He's seeing pick/ban play on 8.5 which is before the change.

AnataBakkaApr 4, 20181 votes

riot said it's a bug, don't think they're lying.

it should be fixed this patch

NekoniClawsApr 4, 20181 votes

I heard it was a 'bug' and figured they just put some numbers in the wrong order. The nature of Jhin's multipliers just let them see it.

I feel Guinsoo's is the antithesis of OP on Jhin even though it's 'broken'... his winrate has tanked. I do like 'Jhinshoo's' as an option, though. The 'stack your Guinsoo's' minigame is fun.