Hecarim is losing 110 hp, half his passive, after some early mana nerfs and

Pierce The Veal·Nov 25, 2015·4 votes·706 views

... And no mundo, brand, or amumu nerfs in sight. Skarner lost 1.2 AD ratio from his ult (down from two times 1.0 to two times 0.4)

I'm not sure why Riot focuses on champions that are strong in a small amount of games rather than champions that are always fricking strong across the board.

Plus the only reason hecarim is relatively strong atm is because his passive prevents the utter bullshit caused by the recent unit collision changes, so instead of waiting for when they fix unit collision (which allows people to fight back) they remove that prt of his passive. And after a quarter of the season they'll fix unit collision, and Hec won't get his passive back.

I just wish Riot was willing to accept people playing champions in more than one lane (beside adcs lol).

9 Comments

CalabokNov 25, 20152 votes

have you ever had horse jerky? it's rather tasty

Pierce The VealNov 25, 20151 votes

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have you ever had horse jerky? it's rather tasty

I hate all jerky.

Subject 5Nov 25, 20151 votes

Brand, Amumu and Mundo are the champions you are trying to use against the incoming nerfs. How long ago was Brand considered Viable in this cancerous thing called Meta? Mundo is countered by one item and Amumu can be countered by multiple items.

BluePolarizerNov 25, 20151 votes

Mundo is not countered by 1 item. He has alot of other strengths such as %HP spammable poke from a jungle position, the highest AD steroid in the game and the ability to deal damage while ignoring CC.

Pierce The VealNov 25, 20151 votes

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Brand, Amumu and Mundo are the champions you are trying to use against the incoming nerfs. How long ago was Brand considered Viable in this cancerous thing called Meta? Mundo is countered by one item and Amumu can be countered by multiple items.

Brand was never underpowered ever. Affirmative action isn't a good way to do things when it comes to champs. Hecarim isn't broken atm, and hasn't been for a quite a while, his currently somewhat higher winrate is still not top ten, yet he deserves nerfs for some reason.

Subject 5Nov 25, 20152 votes

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Brand was never underpowered ever. Affirmative action isn't a good way to do things when it comes to champs. Hecarim isn't broken atm, and hasn't been for a quite a while, his currently somewhat higher winrate is still not top ten, yet he deserves nerfs for some reason.

People have to pay for mobility and survivability. Do you honestly want Brand to be on an equal playing ground as Ahri when it comes to damage? Mundo is literlaly countered by an 800 gold purchase. Also winrates. Why are winrates bullshit? Because Heimerdinger was the best during all of the seasons. Boards is bias though. Mundo is a tank that is capable of doing damage but he is overshadowed already by Darius who can dunk after dunk and Garen with his true damage mobility bs.

Brand might be very strong but he has a lot of weaknesses that make him very fair and people also have a very distinct pattern of countering him. It is the most popular thing in the game with some form of it in everybodies kit, it is called mobility. Can't lane against him? Pick Ziggs, Ahri, Ekko, Xerath etc. Hecarim isn't OP but I am just saying attackin those three in particular loses a lot of your credibility. Like when Ekko can have a 3k hp shield building full AP and your worrying about Brand functioning as he was created like wut.

Pierce The VealNov 25, 20151 votes

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People have to pay for mobility and survivability. Do you honestly want Brand to be on an equal playing ground as Ahri when it comes to damage? Mundo is literlaly countered by an 800 gold purchase. Also winrates. Why are winrates bullshit? Because Heimerdinger was the best during all of the seasons. Boards is bias though. Mundo is a tank that is capable of doing damage but he is overshadowed already by Darius who can dunk after dunk and Garen with his true damage mobility bs.

Brand might be very strong but he has a lot of weaknesses that make him very fair and people also have a very distinct pattern of countering him. It is the most popular thing in the game with some form of it in everybodies kit, it is called mobility. Can't lane against him? Pick Ziggs, Ahri, Ekko, Xerath etc. Hecarim isn't OP but I am just saying attackin those three in particular loses a lot of your credibility. Like when Ekko can have a 3k hp shield building full AP and your worrying about Brand functioning as he was created like wut.

Brand has a lot of weaknesses, yeah, like not being mobile. That's pretty much it.

Mundo deals damage, and though he is hurt by grievous wounds, it doesn't put him down.

And heim was among the highest winrates sure, but he never was an outlier where anybody could pick him up and win more than 55% of their games with him.

They're removing Hecarim's freaking passive. The part that grants AD based on movement speed is the boring and somewhat useless part of his passive (with 450 MS he gains like 30 AD, with his E and only his E with 450 MS he gains like 100 for 2 seconds). Being able to walk through units at all points in the game made him interesting.

Did I ever say ekko was balanced? No. I did, however, say that the three easiest to pick up champions with the highest winrates are not getting nerfed.

And saying "just counterpick them" is like saying "just pick lissandra and build zhonya's" back when zed was REALLY strong.