I was really hoping to see Mordekaiser in Worlds; Patch 5.18 killed that.

MealReadytoEat··2 votes·691 views

He's now nearly unplayed in the pro-scene - its not that he's under powered per say (he's around a 50% win rate as ADC)), its that the pro scene highly values reliability, and Morde now has no fall back pattern - He can't shove waves rapidly and heal with his w anymore (net heal of 10 hp level 1, 20 hp at level 5, from 50 to 130).

Furthermore, his once strong early game is now terrible - his W used to have high base damage, but it was very close to halved (380 to 210 level 1, similarly nerfed at higher levels as well)

Now competent players poke and zone him, or just flat out all in him - He's among the squishiest champions in terms of HP and Armor, and he has no way to get away. His strategic niche of brutal all ins early game is now far better preformed by other ADC's such as Draven or Graves, or nearly any other melee bruiser.

The bonus XP for last hitting matters very little in high tier play - He's likely going to have trouble last hitting in the first place against many match ups, but more importantly, ADC's get quite a bit of solo lane XP in the first place as supports roam and ward - and while Morde's support is roaming, any ADC or support with good vision will zone him out of XP range altogether. He has no tools to deal with competent ranged champions on his own.

Sure he has some gimmicks (Dragon's pretty cool), but he's neither reliable or particularly useful any more.

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Jbels1 votes

Ahhh, I remember on PBE when I did nothing but say that this rework was toxic. That it would be powerful for one patch and then nerfed into competitive unviability in the next patch. Nice to know that Morde has done what he's been doing for years now. Going nowhere. Sips some Lipton

DrNova1 votes

More should have never been forced bot.

He was made overpowerful to make this stupid idea work.

People played him cause he was overley strong, as everyone does.

He got nerfs he needed.

Didn't get the rework revert he needed.

Morde will now forever be a failed rework

Cloud2731 votes

You're kidding right? Look at his win rates in plat+ games. He's doing better than everyone right now.

MealReadytoEat1 votes

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You're kidding right? Look at his win rates in plat+ games. He's doing better than everyone right now.

Please read my post about this https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3jn03u/mordekaiser_does_not_have_a_65_win_rate_as_adc

Morde's win rate is right around 50% as an ADC, its just that LoL's API doesn't classify him as an ADC until he has a a few items, so champion.gg really inflates his win rate as an ADC.

Mirkwoodia1 votes

Morde rework was the dumbest move ever made by Riot's balance team. Just admit it, why do you want a broken champ in the LCS so bad?

MealReadytoEat1 votes

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Morde rework was the dumbest move ever made by Riot's balance team. Just admit it, why do you want a broken champ in the LCS so bad?

I want something new, not ADC's. ADC's are quite frankly overpowered if they are needed in 100% of games on both teams (and even more so if they are the only valid option bot lane) - it doesn't mean they are fun to play or FEEL strong, but if they are the only champion role and build that EVERY team needs EVERY game year after year, then they are overpowered. Its always an ADC meta.

Mirkwoodia1 votes

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I want something new, not ADC's. ADC's are quite frankly overpowered if they are needed in 100% of games on both teams (and even more so if they are the only valid option bot lane) - it doesn't mean they are fun to play or FEEL strong, but if they are the only champion role and build that EVERY team needs EVERY game year after year, then they are overpowered. Its always an ADC meta.

Then the problem is it's not that hard to play a 65% win rate champion bot lane, even if the bot lane win rate goes down to 50%

the problem is the 65% win rate everywhere else.

MealReadytoEat1 votes

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Then the problem is it's not that hard to play a 65% win rate champion bot lane, even if the bot lane win rate goes down to 50%

the problem is the 65% win rate everywhere else.

Umm, his win rate is way less than 50% every were else, like a 40 to 45% win rate. He was never close to 65% win rate anywere, its just when he was going bot, he wasn't being categorized as an ADC except when he was ahead, which inflated his "ADC" win rate.

Blade of Justic1 votes

I'm fine with that.

People were okay with Sion going from a Melee ADC to a CC tank.

Now they're mad that Morde went from mid lane to bot lane.

It all comes full circle.

MealReadytoEat1 votes

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I'm fine with that.

People were okay with Sion going from a Melee ADC to a CC tank.

Now they're mad that Morde went from mid lane to bot lane.

It all comes full circle.

Yep, I enjoy the Morde rework, I hope they keep tweaking it though.

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