Nunu is uninteractive and boring to play against

HalcyonDweller·Dec 11, 2017·3 votes·475 views

Just laned against Nunu as a poke mage. Thank god I did, anybody else would have been harassed to no end by his point and click Snowball. But even with a poke character nothing I did mattered, because he could just eat a minion and get a bunch of HP back.

As a champion he's super uninteractive to play against. And it's boring as hell since he has no significant or interesting weakness to adjust your play around.

Can he please PLEASE get moved towards the top of the VGU list? Not only does he have the problems I mentioned above, but he has so much potential to be better both with interactivity and gameplay fantasy.

4 Comments

TehNACHODec 11, 20172 votes

Something about sustain: I think it really highlights an issue that exists when sustain is allowed to exist without any interaction with an opposing player.

Consume is just an odd and outdated ability in general, but the fact that it's an entire ability slot that says "I don't care if I get poked" really shits on any interaction in lane with Nunu. There are a lot of champions that do this well, like Ahri needing to shove lane for her sustain or Illaoi needing to hit an enemy champion+probably hitting minions with her huge AOE. With Consume though, it's just kinda lame for all parties involved when it comes to lane.

HalcyonDwellerDec 11, 20171 votes

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Something about sustain: I think it really highlights an issue that exists when sustain is allowed to exist without any interaction with an opposing player.

Consume is just an odd and outdated ability in general, but the fact that it's an entire ability slot that says "I don't care if I get poked" really shits on any interaction in lane with Nunu. There are a lot of champions that do this well, like Ahri needing to shove lane for her sustain or Illaoi needing to hit an enemy champion+probably hitting minions with her huge AOE. With Consume though, it's just kinda lame for all parties involved when it comes to lane.

I agree wholeheartedly. Thanks for contributing to the discussion!

WEANUS PEANUSDec 11, 20171 votes

I agree that Nunu is an outdated champion and in a pretty bad spot, but it's not true that he's got no weaknesses. He's terrible in solo lanes and he's not that great in the jungle either.

If he spams snowball he goes oom very fast unless he's constantly stacking his passive, in which case you can force him away from your creeps so he can't keep it up.

He has absolutely abysmal waveclear so he's easily pushed under tower and loses cs.

None of the keystone runes do anything significant for him.

If he's not maxing consume its sustain is comparable to GP sustaining with W.

His Q stacking passive does not work in lane as it needs to be stacked on jungle monsters.

His damage falls off significantly as he's too squishy if he goes full AP.

He's also immobile and melee...

HalcyonDwellerDec 11, 20171 votes

I appreciate your advice and I'll try and take advantage of it in future games, but I still feel that Nunu is lacking in real counterplay as much as he is lacking in interesting play patterns.

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I agree that Nunu is an outdated champion and in a pretty bad spot, but it's not true that he's got no weaknesses. He's terrible in solo lanes and he's not that great in the jungle either.

If he spams snowball he goes oom very fast unless he's constantly stacking his passive, in which case you can force him away from your creeps so he can't keep it up.

Took advantage of this, in the end it didn't matter - he caught up easily later. And it's not as pronounced as you claim, because he can make use of manaflow band as well.

He has absolutely abysmal waveclear so he's easily pushed under tower and loses cs.

I'm not about to expose myself to ganks as an immobile Artillery mage. That would have been far too risky.

None of the keystone runes do anything significant for him.

Arcane Comet works great with his snowball, the point and click makes it undodgeable.

If he's not maxing consume its sustain is comparable to GP sustaining with W.

I have no idea what he was maxing, but I know for certain that none of my poke stuck or forced him out of lane.

His Q stacking passive does not work in lane as it needs to be stacked on jungle monsters.

Not really important considering my last point.

His damage falls off significantly as he's too squishy if he goes full AP.

Hmm, my opponent build a banshee's veil and then full AP, he seemed to do just fine.

He's also immobile and melee...

Mostly, but he does get movement speed from Blood Boil. And being these things doesn't really matter if he makes up for them with sustain and ranged poke spells.