Essence Reaver, too much CDR?

only zhule··5 votes·1,123 views

Perhaps i am wrong here, and if so please correct me, but does item 3508 really give CDR at a 1 to 1 rate for additional bonus crit? If this is correct, does anyone else feel that's kind of bullshit? I mean i know Riot really wants ADC type characters to be part of the CDR crowd (i think it's really stupid to give a class that usually functioned with little to no CDR, the ability to max out on it without changing the base cooldown of their abilities but that is a different thread all together.

Anyway, Assuming it is in fact a 1 to 1 ratio. Is it possible to change it to something like a 2 to 1 or even 3 to 1 ratio? So that instead of having Reaver + item 3031 and BOOM 30% CDR, the champion has to build more crit to get the cooldown reduction bonus. Chances are the players will still build items that increase their crit to 40% or more, this simply moves the time table back so that their max CDR shows up around items 3 of their build (not counting boots) instead of item 2.

Edit 1: So did a custom, apparently its more then 1 to 1 but less then 2 to 1. got Reaver plus item 1051 & item 1018 and was rocking 30% CDR.

6 Comments

Critmaster Garen1 votes

its not a 1 to 1 rate, but yes. 30% cdr is too much for an item. what anoys me most about it, is that it gives marksmen access to auto attack multipliers and spell multipliers in one build.

its not like the old essence reaver, where a caster marksman could chose to dedicate an item slot to ad, cdr and manasustain, instead of crit or attack speed. it just gives them both. and too much of it aswell.

this item is literally the equivalent of changing lichbanes passive to apply to every auto attack of a mage, and allow the total damage to crit with a chance equal twice their cdr.

this item is turning adc into auto attack carries and casters at the same time.

DorkunedAuras1 votes

The way it works is that the item has 10% inherently, you gain 10% more for having 10% crit, and the last 10% comes from 20% more crit.

Incognonymous1 votes

It's fucking retarded. I thought this stupid bullshit was going to be nerfed. No class needs 30% CDR from one item and a stat it builds anyway. That's nuts.

RookPusher1 votes

My only problem with ER is that it's a massive bottle neck. If you're mana starved - you need it. but it doesn't give AS or LS and that puts you at a massive disadvantage early game. I'm fine with the CDR it gives assuming you're going to leave it as is. But it's a real hamstring for those champs (Siv, Ez, Lucian) who almost require it.

Sohleks1 votes

It's only particularly great on Lucian right now tho. Nerf? ER basically deleted and Lucy just trades it out for IE losing cullings and mobility for a lil more burst on his RNG. ER is fine since it's stat locked to ADCs and yet it's still a niche.

Sohleks1 votes

Honestly I think the first ER nerfs might have been unwarranted since it appears the problematic parts were and still are the champions themselves

Corki Lucian and MissFortune prenerfs

ER needs that huge CDR spike. That's the purpose and powerspike of the item. And it got stored away until you complete a whole 'nother item.

Then again it'd be a shame if every adc caster was gutted and tuned around an op item they have to buy.

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