Why is Kindred suddenly picked in pro?

D357R0Y3R·May 13, 2018·1 votes·1,855 views

https://i.gyazo.com/2ffcc6057037f6cbc73a7d5c74af99f4.png she has been picked today and was picked twice yesterday

But I don't see why you would pick her over tanks

9 Comments

HammermancerMay 13, 20183 votes

Because kindred is one of those champs that sucks inthe wrong hands and rekz face in the right hands

seriously kindred is a solid champion with high mobility and an execute, plus additional scaling and a team saving ult if you know how to use her..

if you don't then you do no damage, save the enemy team, and then get 1shot

D357R0Y3RMay 13, 20181 votes

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seriously kindred is a solid champion with high mobility and an execute,

execute?

HammermancerMay 13, 20182 votes

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execute?

Her 3 hit proc on her e

ACTIVE: Lamb cripples the target unit, Slow icon slowing them by 50% for 1 second.

If Lamb manages to attack the target twice in the 4 seconds after casting Mounting Dread, her third attack within the following 4 seconds directs Wolf to pounce the target, dealing bonus physical damage, capped at 300 against monsters.

Wolf's pounce will Critical strike icon critically strike for 50% (+ Infinity Edge item 25%) bonus damage against targets below 15% (+ 50% critical strike chance) of their maximum health

Kinda brutal

.> BONUS PHYSICAL DAMAGE:»

65 / 85 / 105 / 125 / 145 (+ 80% bonus AD) (+ 8% (+ 0.5% per Mark of the Kindred Mark) of target's missing health)

DapperWolfMay 13, 20182 votes

Mainly due to the popularity of Trundle currently in competetive, in the latest game where they where picked up, King-Zone vs Team Liquid, tl first picked Trundle and kz answered with Kindred . The reason why they didn't pick any of the popular jungle tanks ( Sejuani , Skarner , JarvanIV , Jax , yes Jax and j4 are played as off-tanks in competetive ) is that Trundle is considered a hard counter to them but on the other hand Kindred is considered a counter to Trundle in competetive. This can work in solo que if the Trundle build like in competetive ( item 1413 into full tank) and doesen't go item 1419 into item 3078 , going for such a squishy builds on the other hand doesen't work in a more organised environment where there is far better focus fire. Remember too that Kindred in competetive tends to build more like a support marksman than a carry jungler which is more common in solo que.

TLDR: the dynamics are just a bit different in competetive than soloque.

EDIT: also, Kindred is currently fairly weak in an unorgainsed environment due to relying heavily on their team while being a jungler, this is seen from them having a bearly 50% win rate but being in the top 10 least played champs, which means they are only played by one tricks and even they are struggling to climb with them.

D357R0Y3RMay 13, 20181 votes

i don't know if you should consider a black cleaver+jungle item+rapidfire canon build "support marksmen" but thanks for the insight

DapperWolfMay 13, 20181 votes

No problem, and the items seen here, item 3071 and also item 3123 , other times you will see item 3022 is mostly to aid the team, stripping armor, reducing healing and slowing, though admitedly I have no idea why the item 3094 is built, personally I would be expecting a item 3085 but pros apparently value the range offers so who am I to argue. This is a fairly low damage build, even the jungle item is meant more for dealing with tanks and contesting baron and dragon, when compared to the current solo que build with item 3087 , item 3031 and item 3094 for a high damage crit build. Hope that clears things up and sorry if I came of as patronising

D357R0Y3RMay 13, 20181 votes

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Hope that clears things up and sorry if I came of as patronising

you were really helpful, you answered to everything i asked

I wonder if she will be played even more once the jungle shifts to a more farming meta (next patch)

DapperWolfMay 13, 20181 votes

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I wonder if she will be played even more once the jungle shifts to a more farming meta (next patch)

That will remain to be seen. It will lean a lot on how Kindred build evolves after the changes due to her core solo que items being nerfed and the changes to scuttle crab which may cripple their ability to get early marks. It is difficult to tell though due to that they have a strong level three and their build may change wildly with the introduction of Hail of Blades as a new rune and items like Stormrazor. Only time will tell how they will turn out with all the changes.

JavelinJoeMay 13, 20181 votes

Her kit can be amazingly powerful if used correctly and once she gets her stacks. The problem is that because of her kit's early weakness (low range for a marksmen, squishy and no form of hard CC). And also how stacking to at least 4 is almost required for her to be viable in most cases makes pro play very hard. She can be pressured heavily since she telegraphs her marks to her enemy. But if in the right hands, she can easily be very powerful, especially in objective control and team fighting.