Maybe we need to buff supports

Burnt Light··2 votes·453 views

Since the beginning of the season, Riot has worked strongly to counter ADCs in every single possible way to have them either blown up by assassins and mages, locked down by tanks, CCed to death by supports, on-click engages/excutions due to their range, or simply make them weaker than a minion.

That's fine, they are suppose to be the ad carry.

But as soon as ADCs got a bit of ways to defend themselves, the entire community freaked out and demanded the nerf of items item 3156 item 3053 and somehow this item 3026.

That's fine too, as long as it doesn't hurt the bruisers/tanks.

But when you start nerfing items that ADCs NEED item 3139 to survive against champions that might get fed by another lane Zed, I would like a way for an ADC to survive since this usually leads to ADCs being vulnerable to exploding.

I'm not saying to give ADCs a way to avoid blowing up without needing a long cooldown like guardian has now. But I would like to have at least a better anti-execution item that supports can use to protect their ADCs.

There isn't a single item in the support builds that can prevent a fed champion from blowing up an ADC or simply against late game damage.

item 3190 is the closest thing we have and summoner 3, granted if the cooldown is up at the same time, which it usually isn't as the cooldown in both of these are long.

Peeling isn't always an option, as the case with Zed since he's invincible while already having clicked on his target with R, or Rengar with his invisibility (Still wanting a pink ward upgrade) or someone with range Veigar.

I wish there was an item that can provide a better barrier or something that can prevent my ADC from being blown up by these on-click executions that can't be peeled off. And I'm not going to be playing Taric and Soraka all the time since other supports might be needed, granted if they're even available for picking.

Supports have been getting the low end of the deal anyways (The ones meant to protect their ADCs, not Brand supports that bring in poking hell). If there can be an item made for better anti-executions in the future, that'd be great.

And hopefully a pink ward upgrade.

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May I Smell You2 votes

You don't know how long I have been waiting for something like that, but it will never happen. You can't always peel everything and that is coming from a Janna main. item 3222item 3190 item 3143 summoner 3 item 3069 and they still die. haha GA is the best bet from high burst. That and their positioning! Hope they don't get dove on.

GrievousFetus1 votes

What you're asking for are items specifically designed to cover up a role's intended natural weakness when literally the entire point of the game on a conceptual level is that every role has a different strength and weakness and has to rely on their teammate to cover it.

The support's job is to support and/or protect the ADC. It's why they have heals, shields and peel, it's why they take exhaust, it's why the ADC is the position which duo lanes. If you give ADCs defensive options you make both supports obsolete and ADCs too self sufficient. It's the exact same reason Riot is reworking assassins because you don't get to build off-tank and have stupid burst damage. If you introduce anti-execution support items, nothing stops non-supports from buying them and utilizing them better.

Burnt Light2 votes

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What you're asking for are items specifically designed to cover up a role's intended natural weakness when literally the entire point of the game on a conceptual level is that every role has a different strength and weakness and has to rely on their teammate to cover it.

The support's job is to support and/or protect the ADC. It's why they have heals, shields and peel, it's why they take exhaust, it's why the ADC is the position which duo lanes. If you give ADCs defensive options you make both supports obsolete and ADCs too self sufficient. It's the exact same reason Riot is reworking assassins because you don't get to build off-tank and have stupid burst damage.

Supports are meant to protect their ADCs and come to their aid to cover that weakness.

And if we're gonna have other roles just be allowed to 1 shot ADCs and give no way for supports to protect them, that makes for bad gameplay and honestly, the whole assassin building tanky and still be able to burst has always been a problem in a vice versa role with tanks building full damage and still remaining hard to kill.

Unless that gets fixed, which I don't see happening, then I want supports to be able to prevent the squishiest role in the game dying in 1 shot.

Especially if it can't be peeled off Zed

Fondling Gems1 votes

Give sightstone and the upgrades the ability that when one ward is planted next to another ward with more than 10 seconds on its life left the 2 wards turn into a pink ward.

Narvuntien1 votes

I think perhaps a buff to Exp gain is what I feel I need as a support right now. Especially with the exp buff junglers got now I really feel way behind everyone else on levels.

Well if the enemy blew everything on your adc you have 3 other teammates perhaps they could do something.. shrug and you can try to help them its too late for your adc.

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