graves is so ungodly broken right now

Bruddah Mase·Dec 4, 2014·3 votes·2,963 views

the second he gets ie/shiv, the game is over.

as you may know, champions with burst are strongest right now thanks to that retarded dragon buff, and graves is the burstiest adc. graves can now instanuke entire teams and is durable enough to survive assassins, unlike other carries. After that his consistent damage is on par with vayne or jinx to that 80% attack speed buff with no downsides. thanks rito graves is an instawin, proving again that carries make the most impact.

10 Comments

City of TorontoDec 4, 20142 votes

Sounds like the complaints of a bruiser main that doesn't play ADC and therefore has a narrow minded opinion about balancing.

Bruddah MaseDec 4, 20141 votes

Sounds like the complaints of a bruiser main that doesn't play ADC and therefore has a narrow minded opinion about balancing.

I play master yi only, and hes notorious for shitting on ad carries.

are we still of the belief that ad carries arent the most influential role after all these years? did trist/twitch and then lucian not teach you adc mains anything about how out of line that role is?

IceKingChernobogDec 4, 20141 votes

Trust me, coming from an adc main. The adcs are way out of line, especially in this meta. Give them 2 or 3 dragons and you they can take down your tanks and assassins with little to no trouble and grave and corki are the worst right now

City of TorontoDec 4, 20141 votes

Trust me, coming from an adc main. The adcs are way out of line, especially in this meta. Give them 2 or 3 dragons and you they can take down your tanks and assassins with little to no trouble and grave and corki are the worst right now

I too main(?) ADC. I play all roles almost equally, but ADC is probably my best role due to my mechanics. ADCs are definitely not out of line. They are strong, they are essential, but they are not out of line.

TheFallenShawDec 4, 20141 votes

Trust me, coming from an adc main. The adcs are way out of line, especially in this meta. Give them 2 or 3 dragons and you they can take down your tanks and assassins with little to no trouble and grave and corki are the worst right now

what exactly did the 2nd or 3rd dragon help with bud? That did not incease their damage against you by anything only the first gives the 8%.

City of TorontoDec 4, 20141 votes

ADCs may be very influential, but not drastically more than other roles. You mention Trist and Lucian? Okay. Rammus. Janna. Warwick. Kassadin. Lee Sin. Amumu. Yasuo. Kayle. Pantheon. All of whom maintained much higher influence on the outcome of a game than any ADC ever has.

Maybe you would understand if you played other roles other than only Master Yi. You can't honestly speak about balance if you view everything from that one perspective.

TheFallenShawDec 4, 20141 votes

ADCs may be very influential, but not drastically more than other roles. You mention Trist and Lucian? Okay. Rammus. Janna. Warwick. Kassadin. Lee Sin. Amumu. Yasuo. Kayle. Pantheon. All of whom maintained much higher influence on the outcome of a game than any ADC ever has.

Maybe you would understand if you played other roles other than only Master Yi. You can't honestly speak about balance if you view everything from that one perspective.

don't use WW he's bad example bc of being currently broken, and I wouldnt use Yasuo bc he tops the ban list due to his Kit.

GorszDec 4, 20141 votes

You're claiming that +8% total AD made graves a "free win".. what? 200 AD thats +16AD..

TheFallenShawDec 4, 20141 votes

Actually No he isn't I can kill him quite easy with Shaco Talon Warwick Zed Rengar Nocturne Katarina Kassadin hell even Azir I honestly Don't see what your problem vrs him is. I say he's balanced his most annoying this in that smoke bomb.

So I shall give you some advice that should help you...

Let your balls drop. Graves is not game breaking you simply refuse to learn how to fight him.

The CandylandmanDec 28, 20151 votes

I can name at least 15 champs that can burst down an entire team, I don't see your point? Seems every time someone is fun to play people complain till that champion is nerfed and hardly used again for awhile. Graves if bursty but not hard to dodge his Q which is his burst, maybe learn to dodge skill shots and don't stand there when the bullet comes back? he also has short range...