He closes the gap with glory, slows you with that and his w, gets a speed boost from cleaver and passive, and then e's you when you flash. AHAHAHAHA my favorite champion is back plebs gtfo my way
KidSpectre11 votes"But muh lack of mobility!" they said. "But gets kited for days!" they cried.
Ohm Wrecker's for the Point Runner passive. Not even towers can save you!
junglerboy161 votesDunkmaster dives for days!
Tis a nice day1 votes+1 for the ohmwrecker. If there's ever a situation where I'd want one, this would be it.
Darkmind12125 votesWhile it is a great improve for him he still gets brutalized by his counter so keep in mind that while he is back on his way to dunk master status people have longed since created ways to counter act him. Still glad to see he got some love you know.
Kate Kane2 votesHehe, brutalized.
Lisofef5 votesIMO, the new black cleaver was crafted specially for 
MY STINGER BRINGS UGLY DEATH
Solari Fortune4 votes
Puri Puri Taric4 voteswell try black cleaver taric and watch your enemys go from 56 armor to 13 or less.
ABlueQuaker3 votes
idk how you've been building Darius all this time but this has been my staple build since Season 2.
Sir Rethor2 votesThis is absolutely disgusting how dare you only have 30% cdr shame on you
junglerboy162 votes*runes maybe?
TenSlashTen2 votesjesus christ no :/
OxBaker2 votesI agree, he needs a nerf.
Rinky Dinky1 votesYou high?
Silents4292 votesWhile we have darius people here how do I actually beat him?
I play 
top. The only time I have ever won against Darius in lane was as Garen or Twisted fate, but that is because 1 outranges him and the other has the silence to make his ult happen first.
But like he beats the utter shit out of you if you go near the minion wave, and all the built in damage and reduction..
Poenacanuck2 votesRIP Nasus. Already hated this matchup now it's even worse hah.
Auryiel2 votesGood, good. New Darius nerfs are incoming
NeoScout2 votesI love when items make more champinos viable
Chaotic Reks1 votes[deleted]
Critmaster Garen19 votes[{quoted}](name=NyX Reks,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PamAEdE0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-05-01T12:06:07.856+0000)
too bad his early game is absolutely awful anymore since black cleaver no longer builds from brutalizer
darius doesnt need brutalizer to have an effective early game. id even say the speed buff of phage is helping him more in lane than that 10 armor pen.
he has enough inbuilt magic damage to still outtrade someone whos stacking armor. just got to keep them in range long enough, to keep those stacks up. and phage is helping with them.
ive actually seen some people do fairly well on him by rushing the new cleaver.
Chaotic Reks1 votesreally? i've seen some dar dars lately that just can't do anything without building brutalizer.
Myozthirirn6 votesThose people are bad because they fall in the illusion that darius needs damage. You can build darius full tank and still deal half the damage while staying alive 4 times longer. His kit is just stupid with that mixed + true damage + free armor pen ._. All you need is duravility + stickness and new cleaver gives both xDD
junglerboy167 votesA little bit of damage doesn't hurt though (like Hydra+BC) and he has great AD ratios for a bruiser, meaning a little goes a long way. Just BC and Hydra together add over 1000 raw damage to his full combo at level 18 if he hits with the edge of his Q and gets full passive stacks before ulting (not even counting Hydra's active). If he goes full tank after that (say, (+)/(
+) 
final build) he gets 1950/1500 bonus health, 55 bonus MR, 95/125 bonus armor, 30/40% CDR, 115 AD, 200/100% base HP5, and 300/700 bonus mana, and 12% lifesteal, yet still gets a ton of extra damage. This Darius is almost as durable as a full tank Darius (especially because of how BC has so much HP now), but deals at least 50% more damage.
Myozthirirn1 votesI just found my soul-mate :D
Lajinn53 votesThose people are bad because they fall in the illusion that darius needs damage. You can build darius full tank and still deal half the damage while staying alive 4 times longer. His kit is just stupid with that mixed + true damage + free armor pen ._. All you need is duravility + stickness and new cleaver gives both xDD
Yes, but full damage darius is hilarious.
LeeDark1 votesBrut wasn't a rush build because he gets so much damage from his passive that a lot of high level Darius players even recommend taking Hybrid penetration marks. Phage is the rush item you want, and now it is even better.
ChaoticPinecone1 votes
and 19 armor pen runes for true damage until the midgame.
Critmaster Garen1 votes
i didnt know youre laning against ap sona. on top i usually walk into lane with 40 armor. depending on my opponent, i might just come back with 150 armor, by rushing a thornmail.
its like people forgot how to play this game somewhere around season 2. they keep stacking damage instead of defense to be able to keep csing and catch up, even when behind. the stick to the same builds no matter what their opponent does. armor is cheaper than ad or armor pen. so rushing armor in lane still wins you fights. especially on someone like darius who wants extended trades to deal damage with his passive.
the changed armor pen formula only comes into play when your opponent gets last whisper and has minimal effect on the lane phase. armor in lane is just as effective as it always was.
ChaoticPinecone1 votesyou took an off-hand cheese strategy way too literally. its not literally true damage, but its practically true damage. 29 armor pen and the free % pen from your E will do damn near true damage agasint anyone who isnt stacking armor just to survive lane. then you hit 6 for some true damage dunks.
and agasint a darius, rushing armor doesnt "win" you the fight. it lets you survive a bit longer in lane. you have no kill pressure on a darius if you rush a thornmail.
Skias2 votesDoesn't he seriously have like 25% armor penetration steroid built into his kit? He also does like every damage source in the game. lol
Sirsir1 votesWhat makes Cleaver better than Triforce for the rage passive on Darius? I mean I know the mana is wasted, and the crit kinda is too, but the direct movespeed and spellblade proc on Tri seems better... Especially since Dar already has % armor shred.
Freljordan2 votesthe mana is wasted? what are you talking about? Darius uses mana!
Bruddah Mase2 votesI haven't even tried trinity force since the changes but let me just say that the 20% CDR on Darius is a big deal, especially early when he doesn't have a full ult refresh. I know trinity force was undeniably the best item last patch but it needs more testing now. Also trinity force is 800 gold more, which could be invested in defense.
Occams Raiser1 votesHow often do people play Darius in ranked? I have heard forever that he is easily countered. especially from new ranged top.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesHe is gonna be so strong, i haven't faced him this patch but it's gonna be rough top lane.
IceKingChernobog1 votes with and is also an absolute monster
OnanThaMan1 votesIts like 
and 
. Move speed boost for her and and slow on the enemy. Now if only it would make its way to the rift.
Baron Von Bangin1 votesIf you weren't rushing Phage into triforce before the new cleaver you were doing it won't anyways. The new BC hardly changed his lane at all.
TwoD1 votesi dont need that shit to break shit with darius
Letsgetcooking1 votesI had one game against a Darius and i was Shen.
Couldn't directly face him, but i could substain his poke attempts. I waited until he was oom, then asked for a gank.
I mean, he tried his best to all in me, but i always kept my dash in case, stayed defensive and substained myslef back up. I also got a kill and two assists with my first ultimate, so that was pretty neat. Either way, Darius couldn't hurt me enough to kill me, and when he's oom, he's only got his passive to help him(it's something, but not enough).
So basicaly, when i saw i was against Darius, i just said "meh", reached level six and ganked. If he pushed, i was sure to have my teleport to respond to him. Didn't lose my turret first.
When against Darius, RESPECT HIS GODDAMN DAMAGE. I had my shield to save me from his Q, and i just substained back the damage that got through. Not everyone play Shen, sure, but get this: Darius is a massive threat to ANYONE until he's oom or doesn't have enough to make his full skills. If he's only got enough to dunk, you can poke: if he wants to save his mana to ult, then he's gonna have to try to reach you without any stacks of bleed.
That's how i rolled with him. I also tried out the new black cleaver on Shen: the health and 20% cd sounded delicious, and the enemy team was rather tanky, so reducing their armor for our Caitlyn was essential. It's okay. Shen doesn't really benefit from it for his kit, though.
NinertaPrime1 votesPlay darius regurlarly top, tried new cleaver, noticed damage loss early however much better long trades and once item was fully built the term nuke would be almost precise.
OperationDEEZ11 votesNot until 
is removed from the game he isn't.
Saianna1 votesRiot: So Guys we believe Darius is in perfect, healthy spot right now. That is why we reduce his base damage by 30, movement speed by 20 and magic damage by 4,29128. That way we'll enable more counterplay
~~Few weeks later Phage & BC got nerfed
~~ Players riot asking for Darius buff
~~Darius is new Warwick/Tristana.