Lee sins Q and ult do WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more damage than they should

Bruddah Mase·1/20/2016, 9:39:23 PM·9 votes·983 views

Not a single basic ability in the ENTIRE GAME that isnt dot does anywhere CLOSE to as much damage as lee sin's gap closing manaless low cooldown Q thats super hard to dodge. 340+8% missing hp is the kind of number i wouldnt have expected to make it past beta phase 7 years ago. and whats the result of his Q being so obscenely overloaded? the rest of his kit is weak of course! JUST KIDDING. His w gives extremely versatile mobility and sustain, his E is a good damage aoe cc, and his ultimate is possibly the strongest ability in the entire game. You can say im exaggerating all his abilities for effect but the truth is im not, theyre literally that strong.

11 Comments

Squidsmastah1/20/2016, 10:24:24 PM4 votes

Lee has a 46-47% win rate, fluctuating between those two numbers. RARELY will it hit 48%. And even then it's only for like a week or two.

I don't see what the problem is.

Cowgirl Ed1/20/2016, 10:03:50 PM3 votes

Nice, people are following the tutorial a guy posted on how to get free upvotes

Penns1/20/2016, 9:59:44 PM2 votes

Dont forget the 180% bonus AD scaling. kek

Hayaishi21/20/2016, 10:23:35 PM1 votes

When you have counterplay you can have good abilities.

nKnown Keyblader1/20/2016, 9:47:29 PM1 votes

I know it feels awkward seeing Lee Sin picked almost everygame and his insane early game pressure, but fact is, he dropps really hard in mid and lategame.

Even tho it's a snowbally early game meta his winrate is at 46% which is insanely low. http://champion.gg/champion/LeeSin

I dont see any reason for a nerf

alfavhunter1/20/2016, 11:09:14 PM1 votes

Lee sin has one issue, ONE

His base MS is to high nerfing it by 5-10 would make him more dependent on proper use of his abilities instead of just outrunning most champions after he misses his Q and gets CCed after his W

That one change would make him much more balanced because it makes his reliance on his skill based mobility more meaningful, instead of miss Q dash in with W, run behind his target who has 335 MS vs his 355, then kick them into team

Vekkna1/20/2016, 9:58:53 PM1 votes

The numbers do not lie. His Q is essentially an Ultimate ability on a 9 second CD, and the majority of other champs don't start outpacing him until around level 12. I did the math elsewhere, but the result is that a lvl 9 Lee Q with Warrior enchant does as much damage as a lvl 9 Katarina ulti full channel with 100 AP.

nKnown Keyblader1/20/2016, 10:10:28 PM1 votes

Come on guys, give a legit reason for a Lee Sin nerf. His AD burst is too strong in early game? Like many burst Champions who do well together with Thunderlords. Nothing new, except that Lee Sin has a Skillshot he relies on. And he can't do anything against CC and is pretty useless in lategame.

His AD Scaling too high? Ever seen a full AD Lee Sin in Competitive? He is even more useless in lategame when he doesnt build tank.

Lee Sin is just an other Noob Basher Champion. Skilled Lee Sin mains can abuse that in lower elo, but won't be as succuessful in high elo since players know how to play against strong early game junglers: Don't give them a big early lead.

He is no threat in SoloQ and he is no threat in competitive