Fk you riot with your fking forced algorithm

GripaAviara··36 votes·2,450 views

Oh, you had a winning streak? You hitted 52% win rate? Well f you, take this braindead teammates and enjoy the losing streak

It's the 7th time this seasons, I get a winning streak and then out of the blue like i get 10-15 games with players that are way below the level of the game. How the frak do you explain this Riot? I win 6-10 game and suddenly i'm so trash i can't win 10 game in a row?

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TheProfezzor17 votes

100% agree with this. I may play a bad game here and there but wtf with this garbage match making making lose 11 in a row. I wouldn’t say anything if they were close games but it’s like brand new players on my team.

GripaAviara12 votes

Right now in que, enemy team 4 tanks, my team picks soraka vs naut+varus and teemo vs vlad.

Alt+F4, i almost never dodge, but had enough. Fix your game riot

Cocho7 votes

MMR just tries to make the teams even. It's doesn't make your teammates pick champs that dont know how to play.

GripaAviara9 votes

In theory, but it fails catastrophically at this

Cocho2 votes

show me the ranked games where the teams were imbalanced MMR-wise

AetherArising3 votes

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show me the ranked games where the teams were imbalanced MMR-wise

You realize that riot hides your MMR and the MMR of games, right?

you.. do realize that you can't actually disprove his claim with "lol show me the MMR values", right?

Cocho1 votes

Yeah I do, but if we look at games and make educated guesses that were balanced/imbalanced.

We can't say that his claim is reasonable or unreasonable if you dont agree with that. I guess we're just wasting our time

Wild Herbivore3 votes

I wonder why they do that, It's not like they have something to hide.... one would assume its rigged or something...

Z3Sleeper1 votes

You realize that OP.GG shows you everyone's MMR and the match MMR of games, right?

You... do realize that you can actually disprove his claim with "lol show me the MMR values". right?

AetherArising1 votes

{quoted}

You realize that OP.GG shows you everyone's MMR and the match MMR of games, right?

You... do realize that you can actually disprove his claim with "lol show me the MMR values". right?

Actually it's a guess pretty much. I've seen HARD stomps where the mmr is near identical on op.gg

Wild Herbivore2 votes

ohh c'mon, nearly every game is imbalanced. Guaranteed 99% of the time you will see 1-2 player(s) on each team with vastly bigger MMR ratings than the rest of the team.

Cocho1 votes

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abca981 votes

tries

Wild Herbivore3 votes

I will tell you the truth that Riot does not want to admit (because you would stop playing), nor does every high elo player (Because this would deflate their ego's), nor will any youtuber with video's like "How to escape bronze/silver" (because it would invalidate the snake oil they are trying to sell you for more views)

The Game is fucking rigged. It forces you to have a 50% win rate. It is quite literally trying to make you lose. Riot knows it, Riot does not care.

People on this forum know about it or deny it because they are oblivious and brainwashed by false statistics.

SEKAI1 votes

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I will tell you the truth that Riot does not want to admit (because you would stop playing), nor does every high elo player (Because this would deflate their ego's), nor will any youtuber with video's like "How to escape bronze/silver" (because it would invalidate the snake oil they are trying to sell you for more views)

The Game is fucking rigged. It forces you to have a 50% win rate. It is quite literally trying to make you lose. Riot knows it, Riot does not care.

People on this forum know about it or deny it because they are oblivious and brainwashed by false statistics.

Then explain how there even is a VERY notcieable skill difference when you compare say a bronze to a diamond, and how most high elos can quickly shoot through the low elo system while ofc low elo can't (given the countless repeated experiments they've done with low elo smurfs which enables and breeds the smurf culture, and so much so they become the one of the biggest reasons behind what is known as the "elo hell" in low elos (many high elo do not approve of its existence, but they don't realise they created the damn thing with their unstoppable smurfing in the first place)... that is enough evidence).

It is true that a system like what we have does enforce grinding into the ladder where a player of a similar skill to their rank will be stuck grinding for some time before being allowed to move on, or in other words it's badly designed in that it hardly allows players to "progress" through the ladder but rather it requires a player who's already better than their rank to "bust" through it, HOWEVER it still doesn't change the fact high elo players actually play better than low elo.

You are the one selling snake oils, by heavily implying that that rank is completely false and meaningless. The irony is strong in this one.

Hell, if the game is completely rigged against you as you say, wouldn't someone making their way to high elo is MORE impressive? Why are you saying it as if it's completely bullshit and "snake oil"?

GripaAviara1 votes

how most high elos can quickly shoot through the low elo system

They can't shoot through. I mean not quickly. They will go through eventually, but unless is high diamond with very good reflexes ... I've seen high plat smurfs struggle in silver. And i get it, but dude, forcing a silver player be high diamond level just to climb consistently it's not ok. And I don't even care that much about climbing, but wasting 20-30 min 5 times in a row just because matchmaking it's super offputting

lolibus3 votes

one reason is because of autofill, made the game worse in every aspect and them hiding the elo is a sign they aren't confident in their matchmaking

I blame the support role, if nobody wants to play it maybe its time to remove it and add something people actually want to play instead of ruining the game for everyone with autofill

Gelmous1 votes

i like the way you think, you literally have my exact same thoughts

LyingOnLine2 votes

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GripaAviara7 votes

At least i'm a shit in lol not in real life randomly showing my superiority like you

datfatguy8 votes

Looking at your match history, I wouldn't talk. All you seem to play is bots and normals

ExpStealer2 votes

Was at NINETY PERCENT winrate, fresh out of my placement games, Silver III MMR (guessed by OP.GG of course, may not have been correct). Now I keep failing my promos to Silver IV and am barely over 50% winrate. Surely I've had my share of bad games, but DAMN. Just DAMN.

Nanuk Pihoqahiak1 votes

That means nothing. Just because you were statistically lucky out of ten games, doesn't mean your winrate is going to remain at ninety percent. Nobody plays at a ninety percent winrate consistently.

ExpStealer1 votes

Winning 9 games in a row has nothing to do with luck to me. I can't sit at 90%, but my point is I simply got paired with people below the average skill level consistently.

abca982 votes

I just played a game in which our Nasus refused to build any hp items and continued facing the enemy Garen despite being 3 kills behind, our jungler (Fiddlesticks ) spent more time dead than ganming/ farming (mastery 7 btw) and our mid Jayce built full dmg vs the enemyAkali who was roflstomping him.

Riot what did I do wrong to be paired with people that lacked oxygen during their birth?

ARAM ZooKeeper2 votes

Autoloss teammates are real. Riot has given me a 3/15 top laner or an 0-9 JG that throw.

They either need to let champs snowball harder, or stop putting auto-loss trash on winner teams.

I cant carry trash. I can win lane everygame, but I cannot stop bad kids from being bad.

Edit: Can we just stop pretending like rank means anything other than time wasted, luck, and patience? Until there is an individual skill metric rank doesn't mean shit, bronze-plat are proof of that

Pika Fox2 votes

Thats not how their matchmaking works. You win? Your MMR goes up. You lose? It goes down. If you win multiple times, then lose, its not because of some "win streak detection", its because your MMR is higher and youre playing against higher MMR opponents. Who you clearly cant play against.

Hayaishi1 votes

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Thats not how their matchmaking works. You win? Your MMR goes up. You lose? It goes down. If you win multiple times, then lose, its not because of some "win streak detection", its because your MMR is higher and youre playing against higher MMR opponents. Who you clearly cant play against.

Clearly high MMR opponents means my teammates are also higher MMR.

How does this justifies teammates going 0/10 before min 15 if apparently they are also better.

Pika Fox1 votes

Because you dont have any games where you feed off your ass, amirite?

densi1 votes

just had a 7-game winning streak and lost my last 2 games. I can feel the losing streak to even out my winrate

BIue Monk1 votes

Well that's how the game is designed, and tbh Riot isn't really trying to hide/change it... You can consider it as a part of the gameplay :)

Source : playing since the beginning + maths.

BootyHunterRengo1 votes

When you get to Gold 2 and then get a person that does his second placement game, was unranked all the seasons before that and already lost the first placement horrbily. On the same champion. and the teams consist of G2-plat3 players. Guess who lost... Since this person had no idea of the game, the mechanics, matchups, generally how the more competitive mode works etc.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Can you do me a favour and cross post this on EUW? Pretty sure it's gonna get downvoted. But i really wanna test it. lol

ƒrostγ1 votes

Sorry but that only means you belong in that elo. Downvote me as much as you want, still won't change the truth.

Hayaishi1 votes

After a losing streak of games ending at min 18-22. Now i'm the one winning games at min 18-22. Literally stomping the enemy team.

So much for a fair matchamking

Mos Deadly981 votes

You die too much. Your cs is on par and about as good as it needs to be. Your picks are offmeta so you arent getting countered that hard most likely. You probably end up hard carrying your teamates and as such every time you die you lose alot of pressure on the game.

GripaAviara1 votes

It's not like in the current state of the game you can die less vs a fed team. The damage is off the charts

Mos Deadly981 votes

and tis be why you cant climb. Rather then trying to figure out how you can die less you make excuses.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

I'm not one to normally point out ranks, but this is one of those times where it's validated.

In Bronze-Plat and hell even Diamond alot of the time, you can play well enough to make up for dud teammates.

If you're struggling to do so in Silver don't expect it to be any easier in Diamond. You're still gonna get quality allies that have terrible macro play or terrible mechanics for the MMR they're in and you're still gonna have to consistently perform to a level where you make up for their inefficiencies.

There is no hidden "match you with 4 losers" algorithm here. These are real human beings and they are being matched with you to match the enemy team MMR. Nothing beyond that.

Blacklord1 votes

I totally agree with this. Riot has an algorythm and 95% of players have 45%-55% winrate. this is not a random fact. This is real. After a good winning streak. My botlane will have repeatedly 2/12 or 3/18. and We talk about gold 4-2 tier. Its like suddenly u have bronze teamates. Thats why this game sucks. I uninstalled it today. Never give money to Riot again. Its a waste of time to climb in ranked. 50% of games have afk,trolls,feeders etc.

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