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@Riot Buffing Bruiser Itemization

Zerenza·2/23/2020, 12:50:06 AM·1 votes·2,370 views

Why? Why is this necessary?

Death's Dance New recipe: [Aegis of the Legion + Vampiric Scepter + Caulfield's Warhammer + 400g] Total cost unchanged AD lowered from 80 to 60 [New] +30 Armor [New] +30 Magic Resist

Why? So, let's make ANOTHER AD Damage Item that give resistances or survivability because Phantom Dancer, Steraks Gage, Maw of Malmortius, Guardian Angel and Mercurial Scimitar aren't enough? Why? Why?

Bruisers have been dominating the game for over a year and you feel the need to BUFF them, i'v been sitting here hoping one day they get some nerfs because Conq is so broken champions like Zac and Katarina are taking it.

AD Bruiser's make up 7 of the highest playrate Toplaner's in the game 3 of those bruiser's have winrate's bellow 50%. Of the 10 highest played champions in the toplane, 70% of them are bruiser's and 40% of them are doing just fine and don't require any buffs at all.

AD Bruiser's make up 5 of the highest Playrate Jungler's in the game, every single one of them is sitting at a completely fair winrate. There is 1 Tank in the top 10 most played, 1 Mage and 3 AP Assassins.

This get's on my nerves, can we stop buffing Bruiser's and Bruiser itemization?

For 2 year's Bruiser's have being buffed or being catered to especially in the jungle. Scuttle Changes, increases in kill EXP, decreases in Farm EXP, multiple buffs to individual champions, more jungle changes that make Farming pointless so you just gank and invade for all your EXP, CONQUEROR and the fact it took a whole year for them to change it AND IT"S STILL NOT BALANCED!

I'm sick of it, stop buffing Bruiser's and Bruiser Items THEY DO NOT NEED IT!!! They never needed half the changes you've made but it's really starting to look like your trying to shove all the other champions out of the jungle and out of Top Lane to make way for the 50+ bruiser's in the game.

23 Comments

Accenix2/23/2020, 1:08:06 AM7 votes

Because top is trash right now and the least impactful role and bruisers are dead.

CHEWYARMS2/23/2020, 1:27:34 AM6 votes

Most expensive items + worst scaling in the game = bad design.

LanceTheJungler2/23/2020, 9:16:52 AM5 votes

WTF AM I READING LOL. This guy thinks Phantom Dancer Maw and Scimitar are bruisers items, while also believing bruisers dominate the game. How dare bruisers be playable in there own fucking roles! ( which they have to share with every other class lol )

Paroe2/23/2020, 3:00:20 AM4 votes

Why hasnt anyone mentioned that Deaths Dance isnt a bruiser item, but a fighter item? Fighter items are AD+resistances. Bruiser items are AD+HP Tank items are HP+resistances (Juggernauts are just bruisers that scale harder and generally have less mobility)

item 3053 item 3071 item 3748 are bruiser items. item 3156 item 3026 are fighter items item 3812 in its current iteration is an AD caster item - one made irrelevant thanks to the lethality itemization rework. The change to make it a fighter item is good IMO. Now if we could GA to build out of an aiegis of legion... we would be cooking.

Hemulen Magi2/23/2020, 1:25:55 AM3 votes

It seems possibly good to me. It's a case where Riot is dialing back damage and increasing defenses, as players have been requesting for the last two seasons. I think they should drop its healing to 12% or 13% though on the PBE changes since more resistances increase the effective health from the healing. Also while Riot's paying attention to bruiser itemization, AP bruisers could really use some new items. Something new built out of item 3191 + item 3136 for non-assassin AP melees could be nice.

vgamedude2/23/2020, 8:47:29 AM2 votes

bruisers have been dominating the game

Lmao classic league forum quality

IMelchorI2/23/2020, 11:11:11 PM2 votes

people keep asking for riot to tune down damage and make characters more tanky.

riot takes 20 ad from death dance and adds resistances.

people still complaining...

Lord Mayert2/23/2020, 1:30:36 AM1 votes

It's not bad to let a bruiser die in 5 seconds instead of the usual 3 is it ? I think riot finally decided to look at the problems that plague the top lane instead of ignoring them. Both tanks and bruisers need to make a comeback in the meta, Death's dance will help against top laners that at first have to deal with a mage top or ad bruiser top or an Ornn then go mid and deal with the exact opposite, so it gives variety of defensive capabilities sustain and a small bit of cdr. This item is nowhere close to being broken, right now with 130 mr I could completely be decimated in matter of seconds against a full ap team as a kled or any bruiser so I am actually happy that riot decided to buff this item next, since I am having so much fun building item 3068 on tanks who finally are making a comeback in the meta.

Lovelle2/23/2020, 5:37:23 PM1 votes

Most bruisers don't even build Death's Dance, though that might soon change. I honestly wish the item didn't exist. Not a single champ that builds it actually needs the burst healing. It just allows them to win fights they normally couldn't.

Champs like Lee, Riven, and Urgot are plenty strong without Death's Dance pushing them over the edge. They should have to make sacrifices for lifesteal like everyone else in the game, yet they don't give up anything to build it.

TheBrothersGrymm2/23/2020, 5:45:37 PM1 votes

This item ruins toplane tho, whoever rushes it wins, tanks cant lane vs anything with this anymore, aatrox is tankyer i mean its a terrible idea all around, but Tencent know what they are doing after all LMAO

LegitBusinessman2/23/2020, 7:58:11 PM1 votes

Meanwhile top tanks named Ornn still dont exist.

Duskdemon2/24/2020, 2:46:22 AM1 votes

{quoted} AD Bruiser's make up 5 of the highest Playrate Jungler's in the game, every single one of them is sitting at a completely fair winrate. There is 1 Tank in the top 10 most played, 1 Mage and 3 AP Assassins.

lolwut The top ten picked junglers for plat+ from 10.3 are LeeSin Elise JarvanIV Ekko Khazix RekSai Olaf MasterYi Shaco and Zac

Saezio2/23/2020, 2:51:34 AM1 votes

It's been ages since subclasses have been introduced.

Can you please let us know what specific champions you feel are gonna benefit that are already strong enough?

You say bruiser and the only one I think about is vi. Cause she literally bruises people.