ADCs are meta, you have ardent meta, you have tanks with cc meta

Ahristocats·Sep 1, 2017·6 votes·1,029 views

and yet

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i'm slapping every fools that come and dare to go bot with

SERIOUSLY a legit question: why the board isn't maining morde?

you have EVERYONE complaining about marksmen being mandatory, you have everyone complaining about melees not being able to lane bot everyone complaining about marksmen deciding the game

so why aren't they maining morde? he's literally the answer to everyone: -can lane bot -can destroy marksmen -can carry games and decide them

and that thanks to our lord and savior certainlyT

worst part? bot morde will probably be gone soon, and no one will be able to compet with marksmen

so i'm asking: why aren't you maining morde if you don't want to see marksmen bot?

24 Comments

Malicious MetalSep 1, 20173 votes

Simple. Not everyone likes Mordekaiser's kit and theme. Not everyone wants to ride the OP train but rather enjoys playing their own champions.

This is league of legends. It's a game, people value fun over abusing broken strats.

PennsSep 1, 20172 votes

because Mordekaiser =/= assassin hehe

AhristocatsSep 1, 20171 votes

so people want assassins to go bot?

PennsSep 1, 20171 votes

no but if its not an assassin i aint main it

######now that i got my diamond border with sona hehe

AhristocatsSep 1, 20171 votes

i don't know, you're sure he isn't an assassin? i killed people faster than talon

PennsSep 1, 20171 votes

nah https://i.gyazo.com/163e06b1e6cbf02d70989f44c1253e1c.mp4 is best assassin bonus points because i changed his VO to japanese so the anime is complete hehe

MachitaruSep 1, 20172 votes

Hey Rubick, fellow morde player here. Was wondering if you could explain when and why you build certain items in lane. Specifically bot but in top as well. Oh and this has been bugging me a while so i'd like your opinion on tri force and to a lesser extent nashors.

AhristocatsSep 1, 20173 votes

i build triforce whenever my team lacks of physical damage i never build nashor, not saying it's a bad item just never think about

for certain lanes i rush MR pen boots against adcs that are hard to catch i rush gunblade against very long range adc i rush void staff against teams that have tanks and we don't have other champions able to kill tanks

hm that's all i guess, i'm not an expert of toplane morde i only play him bot ask MM for toplane morde

MachitaruSep 1, 20172 votes

Thanks for the reply.

This is good info, i'll try it out next time I play morde bot, especially tri force. Quick followup questions while I got you here if you have time: Is crystal scepter core or only bought when getting liandry's? Luden's yay or nay? Tank items or hybrid offense/defense such as zhonya's when looking for durability?

AhristocatsSep 1, 20173 votes

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Is crystal scepter core or only bought when getting liandry's?

hell no, i only buy it when i'm behind and i don't want to get oneshot even then it feels lackluster

rylai is so trash, if you look at it they destroyed the item 300 hp 75 ap for 2600 gold, what a joke, the slow isn't even needed because if you're bot people die quickly against you

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Luden's yay or nay?

wait too inefficient, you need to understand that AP itemization is skewered, luden is 73% cost efficient, 100 ap for 3000 gold is not good and you can find better

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Tank items or hybrid offense/defense such as zhonya's when looking for durability?

if you look at defense item 3053 best option, it sucks, but it's very good on morde due to highest base ad+morde scaling on total ad item 3157 i only build it against kayn zed and jax, against jax so i can zhonya during his E in teamfight/1v1

MachitaruSep 1, 20173 votes

This is super helpful. Hadn't thought about item cost efficiency but what you said makes sense. Gonna try implementing some of this into my gameplay . Thanks a bunch

KloqdqSep 1, 20172 votes

Rubick Sama says Morde is the answer to marksman's Complained about marksman's himself on several occasions

What do I believe. What do I do. I play 3v3 how do I digest this information!

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 1, 20171 votes

Because most people can't play melee versus range matchups proficiently.

AhristocatsSep 1, 20171 votes

so how does one play melee versus range in your opinion?

because morde isn't melee at all, he spams E from range and build up shield poking and reducing poke, push with W while using it on a minion from range and get bonus xp from passive

if morde was a pure melee i would understand, but he can lane from range against his oppenents

BALDG1VEN BOOMERSep 1, 20171 votes

No idea.

But I'm just saying one of the main reasons is because it's just more simple to kite and get farm if you fall behind.

chipndip1Sep 1, 20171 votes

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so how does one play melee versus range in your opinion?

because morde isn't melee at all

Alright...reel it in, pal. You're too turnt.

AhristocatsSep 1, 20171 votes

morde is as melee as gp or rumble

chipndip1Sep 1, 20171 votes

Still an overstatement.

I get he has ranged moves, but his Q, which is a good deal of his damage, is actually melee ranged.

Wet DrymanSep 1, 20171 votes

Morde isn't visually and thematically attractive
He is boring
Botlane is stupid lane overall
~~You need a duo partner because your random support will pick Soraka or other Sona leaving you with no sticking power (despite your pleads)~~
He is a shell of metal that rings hollow (you roasted him, Karthus!)

AhristocatsSep 1, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Deafsinger,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VufdzAFR,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-01T14:44:58.912+0000)

You need a duo partner because your random support will pick Soraka or other Sona leaving you with no sticking power (despite your pleads)

https://i.gyazo.com/01f8df52b448ce50aad953c1e4c04920.png

Wet DrymanSep 1, 20172 votes

Alright, seems like I'm bad then :P But rest still stands as it is

JulanusSep 1, 20173 votes

I'd argue Nami's a pretty good pairing with Morde with her CC and Passive movement speed buff.

Helps Morde stick to things, you know? :P

hhaavviikkSep 1, 20171 votes

because he's boring that's why, I'd rather play sona and she doesn't even have anything to aim or shit, just auto aim skills

ZT XperimentorSep 1, 20171 votes

"so why aren't they maining morde? he's literally the answer to everyone: -can lane bot -can destroy marksmen -can carry games and decide them"

Technically anyone can be played bottom lane if they're good enough and can combo with their partner. Sure he can if he can reach them, which is increadibly unlikely as most marksmen are going to be able to kite him without their support's help. Anyone can if they're fed enough, or if the enemy team is inept enough.

Problem with mordekaiser is that he's an immoble melee without crowd control or sustain. Things marksmen get to build as a bonus when aiming for other stats. For example essence reaver grants plenty of cooldown reduction and mana sustain, so they can spam their cc or mobility to keep away from him. There's an abundance of slows I won't bother listing them. But here's an example here's their items that give bonus movement speed. item 3153 item 3139 item 3046 item 3094 item 3085 item 3087 item 3078 Is he going to build critical hit chance? Doubt it, so there's 3 items already unwanted. Thanks to the rework screwing up how his Q interacts with sheen, trinity force isn't as good as it could be; and it's his only ability with a physical scaling, so the remaining items are quite conditional. How about non-marksmen movement items. item 3060 item 3742 item 3109 item 3100 item 3285 item 3056 item 3800 item 3071 item 3142 item 3512 A few of them are support specific, or geographically reliant, not really helpful unless he's getting dived constantly. The couple of tank ones are nice but obvious and negated if he gets hit by any crowd control. Lichbane like trinity force doesn't synergize as well as he'd hope, but luden's does. His only physical damage is on auto-attacks, but his abilities are relatively low cooldown; of the two physical damage items, black cleaver could be useful if there were other physical damage dealers on the team, otherwise they're inefficient.

You know who should be a good marksmen counter based on their kit? Yasuo. He's got mobility, crowd control, and denial against ranged attacks. Sure mordekaiser has a shield too, but he has to be able to farm or fight to make it in the first place; yasuo gets one for literally running around, and another of an area denial style.