What's with the balance contradiction?

SwapShadows·May 14, 2015·2 votes·400 views

Nerf veigars stun because it doesn't have counterplay, leave annie alone Nerf Zed because his escape is too quick and easy, leave leblanc alone

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disregardableMay 14, 20151 votes

Veigar's full team stun was permanently up, because he didn't need it to farm and it wasn't his ultimate. Likewise, LeBlanc needs to use her distortion to clear, while Zed's ultimate can make a new mobility shadow on its own. What that means is that Annie and LB have more windows of opportunity for their opponents to actually engage (or for them to fuck up) than Zed or Veigar did.

SwapShadowsMay 14, 20151 votes

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Veigar's full team stun was permanently up, because he didn't need it to farm and it wasn't his ultimate. Likewise, LeBlanc needs to use her distortion to clear, while Zed's ultimate can make a new mobility shadow on its own. What that means is that Annie and LB have more windows of opportunity for their opponents to actually engage (or for them to fuck up) than Zed or Veigar did.

What are you talking about? Annie is all point and click, she leaves NO counter play at all, as a matter of fact she has way better AOE stun than veigar; veigar just has more zoning with his.

Leblanc can use her distortion twice without any delay and have it out for like 5 seconds each.

Sona PingMay 14, 20151 votes

Alright, we can give a concession and add a slight delay to Leblanc's ult; we have to make things even right? Now we just need to make Zed use mana, cut his passives down to one, have Shadow Slash's damage take 2 seconds to proc, and now you have to burn Death Mark to wave clear. Sound fair?

SwapShadowsMay 14, 20151 votes

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Alright, we can give a concession and add a slight delay to Leblanc's ult; we have to make things even right? Now we just need to make Zed use mana, cut his passives down to one, have Shadow Slash's damage take 2 seconds to proc, and now you have to burn Death Mark to wave clear. Sound fair?

Learn how kits work, lol.