3 SECOND ROOT
And can cast a fucking shield that says "oh fuck all your skill shots and hard-fought plays on anyone you focus just by me left clicking on them." Zero counterplay to her support. Easy as hell to play. Will be my main support for the duration of this season.
MrFawknSunshine5 votesMorgana's Q is a slow moving linear skill shot... if you cant dodge it you deserve to be rooted for 3 seconds
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
TheDevice1 votesUnlike eveyone else on morg's team, my team, including me, is susceptible to slows and all other kinds of CC that may prevent a juke.
MrFawknSunshine1 votesas someone who has played/main MORG support since before it was cool she isnt a broken support, her shield only blocks magic damage and spells, it dont block physical damage at all. , her abilities have a long CD and for her to pull of a really good ult she has to put her self in danger by being close to the front line.
but part of the reason of the rise in morg play is the rise in ap bot lanes cuz she is a safe pick into those for the reasons you dislike her
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/champion/Morgana/Support/
if you wanna see what champs she is good against/bad against etc go to that link.
OatheSworn2 votesMorgana's Q is a slow moving linear skill shot... if you cant dodge it you deserve to be rooted for 3 seconds
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
I hope you are saying that with the experience and reaction timings to dodge it every single time.
MrFawknSunshine1 votesI hope you are saying that with the experience and reaction timings to dodge it every single time.
it is one of the easiest skill shots to dodge literally step right or left it goes in a straight line
OatheSworn1 votesit is one of the easiest skill shots to dodge literally step right or left it goes in a straight line
You still have not answered the inside question though: have you dodged every single Morgana Q or have you not. If you say that you have, I'd take 2 meanings.
There is a third answer that I haven't mentioned which would be you telling the truth but that possibility is so slim, it's the equivalent to impossible. I honestly don't care which your answer is, if you talk the way you do (degrading to the spell and the people who get hit by it), you'd better be a player that has never been hit by it or have the skills to back it up. Otherwise, what would that make you if you just up and lied, and in reality have been hit by this skill-shot because I take it from your comment and reply that this is something that is so incredibly easy to dodge.
I'd like to add that a skill-shot is meant to be something that is able to be dodged; just one that is difficult to every single time. If your reasoning for the Q being so "dodgeable" is that it moves in a straight line, then you'd better have dodged every single straight-line skill-shot. This includes things like Ezreal Q-W-R, Ashe R, Jinx W-R etc.
Another thing I'd like to add is: a skill-shot becomes increasingly difficult to dodge the closer you are to its point-of-cast (excluding channel casts). A skill-shot is a skill-shot because its ability to hit or miss and the factors that come into play are prediction, reaction, and aim.
If, after all this, you still have something to say, I'm sure you haven't considered the possibility of chain CC which makes your chances of dodging Morgana's Q a dead-flat basic zero. You aren't able to "literally step right or left" to dodge the "slow moving linear skill shot" if you can't move at all. Maybe think of the circumstances before you speak brashly.
If you are thinking of replying, I'm expecting an answer to the inside question mentioned above. I'm not even going to try to humor myself or you with the possibility of your reply saying the third option. I'm not saying this to be rude--I'm being completely honest and frank with you, even the best of players can't dodge every single thing coming at them and you'd better have this in mind if you are even considering of foolishly boasting for your own ego and pride. If you still insist on saying you've dodged everything that's been shot, launched, and fired at you, I'd like to invite you to play a game with me so I can see this "dodge master" up close and personal.
MrFawknSunshine1 voteswhy is it the length of the root the issue for you? its not 3 seconds til its maxed and still has a cool down that is at 11 seconds at all ranks unless you have cdr . blitz Q is alot more instant harder to dodge and near death any time he hits you with it.
and no you dont dodge every skill shot and neither does the best players cuz the player playing the champ with the skill shot isnt gonna hit every one .
but that dont take away the slow moving projectile that it is, nor the fact it goes in a straight line, it does not pass through units/champs it is directly effected by CC reduction
to say its why she is busted/broken/strong isnt the only reason why she is, she has had the same length on her root forever. but considering every champ in the meta is hyper mobile to be hit by her Q is kinda laughable.
also its a root not a stun it does not stop you from attacking, just moving.
as a comparison ASHE's ULT is a GLOBAL LINEAR STUN not a root that stuns for 1 to 3.5 seconds
thats longer cc duration then morgana's Q
plus there are alot of long range linear stuns/roots/snares in the game, not just morgana's Q LUX's Q is a 2 second duration Varus's ult is a 2 second root that can chain/spread to others
and so on ...
OatheSworn1 voteswhy is it the length of the root the issue for you? its not 3 seconds til its maxed and still has a cool down that is at 11 seconds at all ranks unless you have cdr . blitz Q is alot more instant harder to dodge and near death any time he hits you with it.
and no you dont dodge every skill shot and neither does the best players cuz the player playing the champ with the skill shot isnt gonna hit every one .
but that dont take away the slow moving projectile that it is, nor the fact it goes in a straight line, it does not pass through units/champs it is directly effected by CC reduction
to say its why she is busted/broken/strong isnt the only reason why she is, she has had the same length on her root forever. but considering every champ in the meta is hyper mobile to be hit by her Q is kinda laughable.
also its a root not a stun it does not stop you from attacking, just moving.
as a comparison ASHE's ULT is a GLOBAL LINEAR STUN not a root that stuns for 1 to 3.5 seconds
thats longer cc duration then morgana's Q
plus there are alot of long range linear stuns/roots/snares in the game, not just morgana's Q LUX's Q is a 2 second duration Varus's ult is a 2 second root that can chain/spread to others
and so on ...
You've completely gone off track from my earlier post. As I mentioned previously, the only problem I have with you is the way you talk so condescendingly to people who have gotten hit by Morgana's Q. You just admitted that it isn't possible to dodge/hit every skill-shot and that just proves my point there.
MrFawknSunshine1 votesi love you apply context to TEXT by implying i was condescending. maybe it was you who took it that way and implied the context to the TEXT. but youre right you can clearly get a tone through text.
OatheSworn1 votesi love you apply context to TEXT by implying i was condescending. maybe it was you who took it that way and implied the context to the TEXT. but youre right you can clearly get a tone through text.
I can't imagine a single way that...
Morgana's Q is a slow moving linear skill shot... if you cant dodge it you deserve to be rooted for 3 seconds [zombie-brand-facepalm]
...can be taken in a positive way. Especially with the facepalm so don't even try to weasel your way out by pointing out how I "implied" anything. I'm sure you know and anyone else who reads it knows that it was condescending. If you don't want to admit it, I'll leave you to your delusions.
MrFawknSunshine1 votesI can't imagine a single way that... [zombie-brand-facepalm]
...can be taken in a positive way. Especially with the facepalm so don't even try to weasel your way out by pointing out how I "implied" anything. I'm sure you know and anyone else who reads it knows that it was condescending. If you don't want to admit it, I'll leave you to your delusions.
yes YOU IMPLIED IT , NOT ME... and if a morgana is GOOD ENOUGH TO HIT YOU WITH HER SLOW MOVING 11 SEC CD LINEAR SKILL SHOT YOU NEED TO BE ROOTED FOR 3 SECONDS, HELL MAKE IT LONGER
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Keyboard Removed2 votesu have to understand that she is weak against ap supports like nami soraka and janna.
u r completely neglecting the fact that there are many counterplays you can make as a support against morgana
TheDevice1 votesLike? Do tell. I just played a game with a Nami sup vs a Morg. So go on.. let me know these "counterplays" you speak of.
Doge20201 votesLike? Do tell. I just played a game with a Nami sup vs a Morg. So go on.. let me know these "counterplays" you speak of.
Simple, just wait until her black shield is done and focus the other person that she didn’t shield. Her black shield only shields 1 person, so if it is a 2v2 the other team can just focus the person that didn’t get the shield, or if you accidentally get hit by blitz q, he can use ult and chain into e to cc you and stop you from using black shield. And your black shield only stops magic damage and cc, so the ADC can still AUTO you to death.
TheDevice1 votesOh? You mean the other people in the teamfight who you don't want to focus.
If she shields somebody it means they've already been focused and have had CC wasted aginst them. Its like, you can't CC ANYONE becuase mid cc or right after they get a black shield.
You actually can't auto anyone if you are ROOTED FOR 3 SECONDS. (unless you're an adc)
Keyboard Removed4 votesI admit the fact that morgana is currently one of the top tier support in the meta right now, but she is not uncountable.
Maybe in low elo when people have slow reaction time, her q is just a 100% accuracy skill, but in high elo it's certainly not.
SSG Core JJ, one of the best support who won the world last season, said in the stream last week that
if you are playing morg, make sure you ban soraka.. she is not possible to win against.
Morgana needs to w constantly to lower enemy's hp so whenever she lands a q she can make a takedown.
So either extremely good sustainability (soraka nami etc.) or damage beyond the black shield (brand zyra velkoz) can make so many counterplays against morgana. (I really don't know how to describe these into words to be honest)
and most sup are ranged also. so when they get snared, they can still poke and auto. btw. (I looked at the comment below)
SuperLuigiLXIV4 votesYou just max the shield against those supports.
Ahri Body Pillow1 votesThen you don't get the 3 second root?
SuperLuigiLXIV2 votesDamn, you're right.
A 2-second root isn't NEARLY long enough in this damage-ass meta :^)
La Belle Sauvage1 votes[{quoted}](name=Keyboard Removed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VpJL9gVO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-05T22:42:44.459+0000)
u have to understand that she is weak against ap supports like nami soraka and janna.
u r completely neglecting the fact that there are many counterplays you can make as a support against morgana
I think Sona matches up well with Morg. Any ranged mage support really.
Hayaishi2 votesU just dodge the binding and morg loses all lane pressure.
Doge20201 votesRemember that people can still cast abilities and aa while rooted. They can’t cast any abilities that make them move somewhere. The root won’t affect abilities like Unstoppable Force and Shyv Ult, cause they are both unstoppable. And people can cc you when you use ult so they can easily walk out of the area. She is good if your reaction time is good, and you can predict when somebody is going to use instant cc abilities like Renekton’s w.
Wild Geese1 votesMorgana's whole game is keep away. She'll even do things like sit under a turret defending at 10 HP because few Champions can dive her and survive...
She's really annoying but as once you just Keep your distance, her q is a lot easier to dodge and she can't do much. To some degree letting Morgana zone counters her. It's a bummer of you're a kill lane but at least you can farm easily.
CauseSCIENCE1 votesI hate her 3 second root, and thats why i learn to know when its coming and dodge it
gabetheguy1 votesgladly tbqh