Apparently it's Reverting time

D357R0Y3R··15 votes·1,573 views

we're reverting nerfs like we did with jayce, so let's do it for some forgotten champ

Renekton Dominus health gain 300/500/700---->200/450/800 Garen ms 345--->340 Maokai gets mr/lvl DrMundo Infected Cleaver Damage changed to 15 / 17.5 / 20 / 22.5 / 25% of target's current health from 15 / 18 / 21 / 23 / 25.

that way, top lane can be good again

41 Comments

S0kaX6 votes

I WANT OLD Shen BACK!!!

Melledoneus2 votes

Old Shen would be shit on by every laner because of how much HP top laners can build now.

I miss Vorpal blade, but I would not give up the %HP damage for it.

Vistha Kai2 votes

How about half the energy costs, though?

Melledoneus1 votes

To be honest, he has a larger energy pool, too, so it doesn't change much other than energy regen.

Vistha Kai3 votes

And that's the problem with Shen for me.

Yes, the facade appears the same, but it heavily dismishes afterwards.

Melledoneus1 votes

I just want his scaling armor back. His W feels so weak because of how limited it is. I'd rather have no W and Shen's scaling armo back than what we have now.

Sahn Uzal5 votes

Gangplank Back to his re-release state :^) Sion Back to his re-release state :^)

dominusx2 votes

bring Gp back plz and Sion i actually miss both of them </3

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

oh bring back the permaban GP. sounds fun

Sahn Uzal1 votes

Don't take me serious when I type :^)

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

no am serious i want the permaban gp back i mean hes pretty strong but i want to roflstomp people. also hes somewhat fun to watch late game in lcs. much better than kennen gnar and jayce. ughhh

Sahn Uzal1 votes

But I wanna spam him without him getting banned :( He's one of the few champions I truly enjoy in this game

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

tbh i just want to have faster barrel recharge. that is all. they can nerf something else. takes too damn long to make multiple plays too damn long

Sahn Uzal1 votes

I'd love that :p

For now tho, try setting up some Kegs in an area when a teamfight is about to happen

TyrekGoldenspear4 votes

Hey maybe I can stop running MS quints on Garen just to keep up with everyone!

Jinzo Torrance4 votes

You think Renekton change was a nerf?

D357R0Y3R4 votes

are you stupid? losing 100 hp at lvl 6 made him 1v2ing the jungle+top way way less often, the nerf was so hard that they partially reverted it Bonus health changed to 250 / 500 / 750 from 200 / 400 / 800, now revert it entierly.

Jinzo Torrance6 votes

Because we totally want "Can your top beat Renek? No? Then it's not viable" bullshit again?

D357R0Y3R3 votes

since season 3 there are i don't know how many people that can trade easily against renekton Darius Illaoi Yorick Fiora . what was renekton you have it right now with so many reworked champ. that's the purpose of reverting nerfs, just like when they reverted jayce's nerf because "the game has changed"

Bisaknosp2 votes

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since season 3 there are i don't know how many people that can trade easily against renekton Darius Illaoi Yorick Fiora . what was renekton you have it right now with so many reworked champ. that's the purpose of reverting nerfs, just like when they reverted jayce's nerf because "the game has changed"

? fiora? can only win against renekton if she parries his w (which is not the easiest thing to do) at least early/midgame also he can outplay the rest of them by dodging tentacles, outer range q and e of the other ones with his mobility stop making him seem worse than he is

woodvsmurph1 votes

you forgot a few champs including popular ones like: Rumble Riven JayceGnar Kennen . Of course this depends on mastery of the champ and how much jungle pressure either side applies -- as well as how good the renekton is.

dominusx14 votes

I prefer Renekton meta over this shitty thing we have now were it's like -Is your toplaner good at facing ranged champs? -no? unviable -does your toplane have an aoe stun/nuke spell?- no? unviable -is your toplane good on a gold deficit? - no? unviable i litterally havent touched toplane in ages even playing adc is more fun than playing toplane atm and trust me i hate adc with a burning passion.

Lohenngramm1 votes

So does that mean Leona should be a good top laner? I'm not arguing, it just occurred to me that she met all those criteria and that gave me a little chuckle.

Evewynn1 votes

She's pretty bad versus a ranged champ alone though.

dominusx1 votes

Old leona would work this one got her shit toned down so no she can't. i dunno how good she would be with trinity into full tank tho.

WoonStruck1 votes

Have you tried sunfire+IBG Leona? Its actually pretty damn strong if you can get past super early game maxing Q first.

I think its better in the jungle so you can build Abyssal without being punished by lack of HP due to Cinderhulk+SotA. Abyssal alone puts her base damages back to her old values, and makes her do significantly more damage with what was added to her ult and the MR reduction. Grab Warmog's to ensure you have enough HP to go along with your resists and fill you out at 40% CDR, which gives you 33% uptime on your stun and practically a 30 second CD on your R.

You end up being able to 1 shot carries as essentially full-tank, and a stun to follow-up if you don't. Randuin's+Tabi to ensure you can kill them before they kill you, provided your team decides to sit around and do nothing. If you can start with E, you can kill them before they retaliate E->Q->R->Q->E->Q. Not bad for building basically tank.


The biggest issue with a bruiser Leona is early game. Top lane has too much bullshit for her to farm in, and jungle she's too punishable early on, although her clear-speed becomes pretty damn good after Cinder, and practically instant with sheen.

Venedictos1 votes

The last two questions you made are part of the top lane. You don't like the lane, you don't play it, you don't complain about it.

specter4241 votes

Well I mean if your top can't beat Jayce, Gnar or Kennen than its not viable either. You could even throw Darius into the list because he is fairly popular and beats almost every melee 1v1.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

Renekton falls off harder than any champion in league of legends. hes fucking usless late game. uselss.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Because we totally want "Can your top beat Renek? No? Then it's not viable" bullshit again?

because we don't have the exact same thing with the current top lane champions? at least with Renek you can pick a more late game focused champ and try to get there where he falls off. With the current champions in the top lane you must be able to deal with them the entire game so if you aren't able to deal with them since the start then you might as well not even bother with said champion

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

top lane is the worst lane at the moment. its horrendous. mid follows second. jungle is the bes tlane. despite still being limited.

1 800 MID LANE1 votes

Azir :^)

#makeshurimagreatagain

dominusx1 votes

Make me a secondary midlane main again!

AirKingNeo1 votes

Kayle Gets her 5 ad back.

SlaktarTasken1 votes

How about revert the entire game?

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

No? Ok, I'll just stay on my permanent hiatus then.

[zombie-nunu-tears]

A Dizzy Lulu1 votes

SEASON 4 VEIGAR PLS

Meep Man1 votes

I would love it if Dr. Mundo, Renekton, and Maokai were considered great Tops again. When they are strong, the lane is usually less annoying, although I would hate to go back to the "If you can't beat Renekton, you aren't viable" meta.

Venedictos1 votes

Funny thing is that they didn't revert nerfs with Jayce. He never had a 40% AD ratio on his R. And his 5.11 changes didn't revert nerfs either, it was more of an update.

Ahristocats1 votes

his E mana cost buff was a nerf revert.

LankPants1 votes

Shyvana Q nerfs. It's not like reverting her Q nerfs would make her good anyway, she'd still be utter garbage.

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