Now before we follow the trend of other lanes gutting support(I'm looking at you mid mage mains)
The way to fix it is -make it multiplicative if it becomes to strong and make it so its only HEALS AND SHIELDS ON OTHER i repeat OTHER allies,so Vladimir,Swain,mundo or anybody who wants to do massive heals for them selves can not use the item
Critmaster Garen4 votesmaking it multiplicative would be making it stronger for increases, than making it additive.
it would mean base_value x 1.15 ^number_of_items. means for 4 crucibles it would be a 75% increase.
if it stacked additive it would be base_value x 1.15 x number_of_items. meaning 60% increase for 4 crucibles.
Malfini3 votesThere are other more important items for mid laners mages to buy than those two. I would not worry that much.
Dauks2 votesvlad and mundo get crucible and censer? wat. Besides no one remembers to get grievous wounds anyways.
Mysticman892 votesI'm pretty sure 1.15*1.15-1 (multiplicative boost) > 0.15+0.15 (additive boost), unless I'm missing something about how the math works.
I'm also pretty sure it only applies to flat heals rather than regen, so it's not an issue on mundo (also ap is weird on mundo anyway albeit not useless).
I haven't actually tested the viability of stacking them on vlad and the handful of other possible problem champs. Yes the 6 item builds (rabadons+5 ardents) gives decent ap and stupid heals, but you are missing out on a whole whack of effects that other items would have, plus I'm skeptical of the efficiency up to that point.
Theres lots of 'broken' 6 item builds out there for various champs that aren't actually remotely viable in practice, so I'm wary of this falling in the same category.
Lady Hammerlock1 votesI'm pretty sure 1.15*1.15-1 (multiplicative boost) > 0.15+0.15 (additive boost), unless I'm missing something about how the math works.
I'm also pretty sure it only applies to flat heals rather than regen, so it's not an issue on mundo (also ap is weird on mundo anyway albeit not useless).
I haven't actually tested the viability of stacking them on vlad and the handful of other possible problem champs. Yes the 6 item builds (rabadons+5 ardents) gives decent ap and stupid heals, but you are missing out on a whole whack of effects that other items would have, plus I'm skeptical of the efficiency up to that point.
Theres lots of 'broken' 6 item builds out there for various champs that aren't actually remotely viable in practice, so I'm wary of this falling in the same category.
Its to avoid any problems in the future
Meep Man1 votesThe only item that is remotely good of those on Mundo is Mikael's because of the 10% health heal and CC cleanse.
ChaddyFantome1 votes[{quoted}](name=Inept Maverick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfxiE97d,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-07-02T03:32:28.151+0000)
The only item that is remotely good of those on Mundo is Mikael's because of the 10% health heal and CC cleanse.
You can't actually use the CC cleanse on yourself tho, since you will be CC'd. Perhaps on a snare, but not a stun or silence.
SouL1ess1 votesHow about we just make it an unique passive...
And yes, only applies to heals on allies.