What if Aatrox's W was a lifesteal Aura?

Best princess EU··15 votes·1,710 views

-fits well with his lore -reduces his sustain in laning phase -gives him a niche and a uniqueness unlike other drain tanks/sustain champs

W would be a toggle spell choosing between: -bonus damage (maybe make it an aura too) -lifesteal Aura (isn't increased if below 50% hp)

26 Comments

ChaddyFantome15 votes

So basically the old Zeke's? Aatrox support! Im down!

AirKingNeo8 votes

No, Riot has said auras aren't healthy and we shouldn't force Aatrox as a support either. Aatrox players happen to like playing him in his lane. People don't want weird gimmicks that aren't Aatrox's playstyle, they want buffs.

SpecterVonBaren4 votes

As much as I admire, respect, and fear, true Aatrox mains, even they know their champion is trash and needs a rework at some point.

Tik1153 votes

What they should do is make his W interact more with his health, Aatrox is meant to jump between heal tanking and dealing damage, What I think they should do is change his W to something like this

Remove the 3 hit effect on them

New Effect: Whenever Aatrox takes damage 15%(lvl1),30%(lvl6),45%(lvl11),60%(lvl16) of the damage turns into Gray health,

If using Blood Thirst each AA heals him for 2%,4%,6%,8%,10% of gray health (Before including any Lifesteal he has built in)

If Using Blood price, Sacrifice 2%,4%,6%,8%,10% of gray health to deal X amount more damage

Grey health persists until out of combat for 2 seconds in which it decays

Now right of the bat this would turn him more from a fighter to a brusier however it would give the champion much more strength in general and also give players fighting as him or against him some factors to think about such as

Will I be able to survive the burst to deal the damage back?

Should I go all in or focus on wittling him down?

Should I use Blood Price for damage or Thirst for survivability?

In addition to using the gray health mechanic it could apply to his passive as well, the % his blood well is filled means the % of the grey health he has is given back to him in addition to the base heal, What this means is if Aatrox dives into their entire team he can choose to ether try to cause havoc with Blood price or try to keep their attention with Blood thirst.

TheHappyReaperz1 votes

This doesn't seem like a bad idea.

Count Zubat2 votes

Yes, it would be great lore wise etc., but the problem is... well... lifesteal. Lifesteal is a problem, the last thing I need is an adc's building fucking bloodthirster, death's dance, running goddamn warlord and having Aatrox give them even more lifesteal. Lifesteal needs to be toned down, not added to even more things. Not to mention, Riot hates hidden power lately, especially when it comes to passive auras: see nerfs on Janna's passive and a rework of Zilean's passive, removal of MR aura from Aegis etc.

Veltox1 votes

What if they give him a big cool bloody glow every time he activates lifesteal aura so everyone is aware.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Broken

Best princess EU1 votes

god forbides a spell for doing something at least.

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

Not broken. Gameplay just looks as boring as GP's old E.

GULAG 4 U3 votes

I thought gameplay was about upvote farming by making vayne threads

Jeitsu1 votes

I dont like it sry.

Tenth Leper1 votes

Would be nice to see him in a duo lane sometimes. He brings some semi decent cc too.

And as you said it would fit the lore.

Jbels1 votes

It won't fix what's inherently wrong with Aatrox, and what's wrong with Aatrox is his piss poor base stats that have to be piss poor because of his infinite sustain, his lack of meaningful gameplay choices, his ball of stats ult. He needs a full gameplay update, which is a damn shame. Aesthetically, I think he's one of the coolest looking champions in the game

Ahristocats1 votes

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It won't fix what's inherently wrong with Aatrox, and what's wrong with Aatrox

doing this change won't force riot to fixe other things.

Sylvant1 votes

If you talk about friendly targets beneficial aura, riot made sure to take away most aura in the game. I really dont know the reason, but working against what they did so far sounds unlikely. Giving Aatrox a support niche is also working in the wrong direction. He has certain weaknesses, or strengths which are kept under suppression in order to keep him balanced(currently keeping him weak) and i dont see how such change can fix anything

abbbez1 votes

wouldn't be to bad since the enemy teams adc can just buy like mortal reminder or something to counter it.

Hemanth1 votes

What if it healed/damaged half of what it does to nearby allies/enemies in a certain range when ult is up!!

Veltox1 votes

Would match his lore as a commander. What ideas you got for e?current one is doing damn low damage at how easy it is to juke.

Marshbouy1 votes

Aura's apply a lot of hidden power and are one of the things that riot dislikes, what that means for Aatrox as a champion... i'm not sure.

Ahristocats1 votes

problem is that a lifesteal aura isn't hidden power, you can clearly see the dudes regaining hp

don't you agree?

IPromiseTomorrow1 votes

I'd be so down for Draven + Aatrox Botlane. I'd be like having 2 health pots after every minion killed.

AsianBear6151 votes

What if they make it similar to release Bami's Cinder? For example, he does damage in an area around him and life steals from that damage. The damage and life steal ramp up the longer you are in contact with the target. That would give him a really different aspect qnd a unique niche.

Frius1 votes

remembers me of arthas(death knight from warcraft 3 ) or dreadlord with lifesteal aura... sounds cool

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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-fits well with his lore -reduces his sustain in laning phase -gives him a niche and a uniqueness unlike other drain tanks/sustain champs

W would be a toggle spell choosing between: -bonus damage (maybe make it an aura too) -lifesteal Aura (isn't increased if below 50% hp)

Just give him old Sion ult.

+50% attack speed. +50/75/100% lifesteal and you heal nearby allies for half the amount. Then change his E into something that isn't a lame gimmick. Make his W deal more damage but heal less overall as well (also make it so that the heal increase scales directly with his lost health instead of just suddenly increasing when you drop to 49%). Consider making his Q not be able to be disabled, such that he experiences the CC at the end of it.

Bam. Aatrox is fun and balanced again.

Legacy Hydralpha1 votes

An aura could help the archetype Aatrox should have of being this war deity kind of guy that sends his allies into a rage.

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