Here's the list of changes that UDYR deserves.

Wukong Airlines··6 votes·415 views

Ability icons update Gameplay and overall ability update Visuals and lore update Spirit guard update

Pretty sure he'll never get his visuals updated, cause that will force to another enhancement to his ultimate skin as well.

You know why Udyr is the next Aatrox? [[lucky Aatrox is getting reworked after a long time]], it's because he's being forced to have 4 AA based abilities in a cc dependent meta.

Turtle stance shouldn't give shield and hp steal ever 3rd attack, why not change it into a defensive stance, denying all stuns taken, reduce Udyr's MS and grant him % damage reduction?

Bear should grant him perma MS % when persistent, give it a passive: udyr runs faster towards fleeing enemies or something, and knock aside any enemy he hits.

Tiger is agile, and should put Udyr in [[Hunt]] mode. Tigers in general depend on their ears to hunt, their most valuable sense, why not give him the ability to sense enemies in a certain radius, allow him to hop over SMALL walls only, and any damaged enemy from his tiger stance should prioritize him as his [[Prey]]? (( only when tiger stance is activated ))

Phoenix stance: why not turn it into a 3 levels ultimate just like all champs? I'm not sure what to do about it but , open for suggestions.

6 Comments

Samura Yukisuna1 votes

Imo phoenix stance should just get a 30 sec cooldown where udyr activates all stances at once for a set duration.

Wukong Airlines1 votes

feels broken.

Samura Yukisuna1 votes

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feels broken.

Feels actually useful, unlike current phoenix stance.

Omen461 votes

I actually dislike the rework of his ult. I REALLY like the turtle stance idea, the bear is his only real power in the meta RN so i'd leave that alone, The tiger stance was meant to be more of a high damage auto attack, it's meant to apply burst based on ad, which causes a unique shift since phoenix used AP to deal DPS. Udyr is the only champion that still shifts during game. He can still become tanky, still deal dps, and still burst. He, like out newest addition Kayn, can still adjust to whatever needs to be in the team comp the moment they need it, more by leveling up skill than items, but it's effect stacks, I can say with how much range their giving champs that phoenix stance needs to be given more poke and wave clear. I defineatly feel that being 'ultless' is an amazing factor to udyr's uniqueness.

crzymdscntst1 votes

His passive right now is a dead duck in the water. (Or a red herring of power-consultation.... meaning the problem is with the skills and the passive simply is the joint factor.)

Monkey's Agility stacks on casts with AS and Movespeed that he can use well, but each cast forces a cooldown on all skills. It's not only a full auto-attack based kit, but a nuanced one. His entire kit scales with the AS, but he has 2 AS boosters in Q (Tiger Stance) and his passive. His entire kit scales with movespeed to keep on targets, but it's on his E (Bear Stance) and passive. So you have repeating stat boosts that are nice for him, but don't accomplish independently.

For the bear stance suggestion for changing... I propose: "Knocks aside minions" The power to shift minion positioning and beeline through them would enable some interesting changes. Although I think Bear Stance needs something in the slow-reduction vein (not necessarily CC reduction), but something that enables him to be just a charging machine when he uses it.

Fisher No Chains1 votes

You already got Udyr's visual update. It just costs 25$.

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