So Pyke R and Urgot R?

ValiantKiller·May 14, 2018·3 votes·3,280 views

So both of them would work the same except as the video said, that Pyke R will kill anyone under flat amount of HP while it able to reset and keep doing same thing over and over and it work as x mark with jump which mean wider range, while Urgot R kill people under % of hp, work one time only, it does require skillshot of line and it can be avoid by QSS or unstoppable effect.

And that mean pyke disadvantage over urgot is the %hp while his advantage over urgot he can reset it, he can land it much easier and it can't be counter by QSS or unstoppable or orange, etc

Good job riot to make me hate myself for playing urgot more and more.

16 Comments

DuskDaUmbreonMay 14, 20182 votes

While it is true that it is easier to use, it's also more risky, and I assume it's shorter range.

And Urgot can use his ult at any time. He could use his at the beginning of a fight and activate it at the end to finish the kill, if the fight was short enough.. Pyke can only use his at the very end.

Plus, Pyke puts himself in a more dangerous place. He's squishier (basically incapable of building HP, it just becomes AD), and puts him in the middle of the enemy team.

ValiantKillerMay 14, 20181 votes

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While it is true that it is easier to use, it's also more risky, and I assume it's shorter range.

And Urgot can use his ult at any time. He could use his at the beginning of a fight and activate it at the end to finish the kill, if the fight was short enough.. Pyke can only use his at the very end.

Plus, Pyke puts himself in a more dangerous place. He's squishier (basically incapable of building HP, it just becomes AD), and puts him in the middle of the enemy team.

Nothing called squishier with ultimate that can kill anyone when they drop below something, that mean even if he went full tank that effect still the same which mean taking down player X if drop below hp value of Y. And as for the risk, i see it more rewarding, easy to use and not easy to counter by easy QSS or unstoppable effect and remember urgot is already in bad shape right now which make things worst for him.

DuskDaUmbreonMay 14, 20182 votes

He cannot go full tank. He can only stack armor and MR. His passive turns bonus health into bonus AD.

It might be more rewarding, but it's much riskier.

And I'm pretty sure Urgot isn't in a bad spot rn...

ValiantKillerMay 14, 20181 votes

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He cannot go full tank. He can only stack armor and MR. His passive turns bonus health into bonus AD.

It might be more rewarding, but it's much riskier.

And I'm pretty sure Urgot isn't in a bad spot rn...

Urgot is in bad sport, the winrate say it all and how he falling down in lane phase say it all.

And i know he can't go full ad, just saying his R can work the same way as urgot without need of damage.

NemeBroMay 15, 20181 votes

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He cannot go full tank. He can only stack armor and MR. His passive turns bonus health into bonus AD.

Where did you read this?

YerroFeverMay 14, 20182 votes

Darius would like to interject and say it's more like his ult...

ValiantKillerMay 14, 20181 votes

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would like to interject and say it's more like his ult...

More in the reset but daruis ult doesn't make 100% kill if it not made with 5 of bleed stacks while Urgot R and Pyke R make 100% kill on the target if they dropped below an amount of hp either % of flat.

YerroFeverMay 14, 20181 votes

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More in the reset but daruis ult doesn't make 100% kill if it not made with 5 of bleed stacks while R and Pyke R make 100% kill on the target if they dropped below an amount of hp either % of flat.

Darius' R does 0%-100% true damage based on the number of hemorrhage stacks. It's not a guaranteed kill.

Urgot's is an guaranteed execute if they drop below a % of max health when you reactivate it.

Pyke's R does a set amount of damage and executes those who have below that threshold.

"Pyke strikes in an X-shaped area, blinking to champions and executing those below a certain flat amount of health. Enemies in the X that are not executed take damage equal to this amount."

It's a blink that deals damage to people in an X shape. If it kills people who have (lets arbitrarily say that for now it's 400 damage for the ult) say 400 health instantly, if they have more than 400 health, they take 400 damage as whatever type of damage the ult is (probably physical).

It's not like Urgot's ult deals 25% of your max health even if you aren't at the death threshold. Darius and Pyke do...?

ValiantKillerMay 14, 20181 votes

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Darius' R does 0%-100% true damage based on the number of hemorrhage stacks. It's not a guaranteed kill.

Urgot's is an guaranteed execute if they drop below a % of max health when you reactivate it.

Pyke's R does a set amount of damage and executes those who have below that threshold.

"Pyke strikes in an X-shaped area, blinking to champions and executing those below a certain flat amount of health. Enemies in the X that are not executed take damage equal to this amount."

It's a blink that deals damage to people in an X shape. If it kills people who have (lets arbitrarily say that for now it's 400 damage for the ult) say 400 health instantly, if they have more than 400 health, they take 400 damage as whatever type of damage the ult is (probably physical).

It's not like Urgot's ult deals 25% of your max health even if you aren't at the death threshold. Darius and Pyke do...?

I understand what you talking about here, but in Darius cause you need that 5 stacks while Pyke and Urgot doesn't set up they just press R.

MorganFreemanBotMay 14, 20182 votes

The only way to stop an urgot R is to kill Urgot.

Pyke hasn't hit yolo que yet, but I can promise you this: You will be able to Zhonyas and Immunity (Taric, Kayle, ect) his R. Urgot does not afford that luxury. We've also yet to see if well timed heals and shields can save a target; will his 'execute' kill you when you're 50 health below the threshold even when you're rocking a 500 damage shield? Urgot's will.

Urgot's R also has a much longer activation range. The ability to 'tag' someone from a great distance, and then initiate the doom drag from even farther away, is pretty important.

ValiantKillerMay 14, 20181 votes

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The only way to stop an urgot R is to kill Urgot.

Pyke hasn't hit yolo que yet, but I can promise you this: You will be able to Zhonyas and Immunity (Taric, Kayle, ect) his R. Urgot does not afford that luxury. We've also yet to see if well timed heals and shields can save a target; will his 'execute' kill you when you're 50 health below the threshold even when you're rocking a 500 damage shield? Urgot's will.

Urgot's R also has a much longer activation range. The ability to 'tag' someone from a great distance, and then initiate the doom drag from even farther away, is pretty important.

item 3140 , Gangplank orange can drag you out of R or even remove the whole effect, while using R during unstoppable effect = you won't be able to drag them which result in not able to kill them and immune = cancel the effect of urgot R and drag champion toward you only. While in case of pyke i'm pretty he going to kill the unstoppable effect, sure immune and zhonyas would stop that like how they stop garen R or Daruis R. And i agree we shall wait, but for your promise as they said in the video that if someone drop below that hp amount = execute to death.