Wanna reduce Jungler's power? start by removing "Sabre"!

Wukong Airlines·May 1, 2018·7 votes·990 views

This item is ridiculous. It gives true damage, some sort of tankiness, and it's unfair when it comes to dueling power. It's one of the mains reasons why are stupidly strong in the jungle

add the jungle nerfs next patch, and you'll see around 7-9 junglers dominating the jungle while keeping this game toxic and unplayable for the rest. and if you're an outdated champion? oh boy, you gotta "improve" to climb. but what do I know, I'm just a main after all.

11 Comments

heroikcMay 1, 20182 votes

Well, what are they to build instead? Cinderhulk and Botrk? Assassins and burst junglers need something.

Who Fed RuMay 1, 20181 votes

new items.

the only way to save the jungle, or the game, in it's current state is a complete rework anyway.

heroikcMay 1, 20181 votes

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new items.

the only way to save the jungle, or the game, in it's current state is a complete rework anyway.

Sure, and midlane, and bot lane, and top lane...New items are the answer.

Who Fed RuMay 1, 20181 votes

Honestly they are.

The items are a big reason why this game went to shit in the first place. They make a big part of game balance.

heroikcMay 2, 20181 votes

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Honestly they are.

The items are a big reason why this game went to shit in the first place. They make a big part of game balance.

...Meh, good point.

Pokemonred200May 1, 20181 votes

the TLDR is that he wants them to make Stalker's Blade the only jungle item. I'm... not 100% sure how I feel about doing that, tbh, since there's a good chance that could lead to 'what jungle enchantment between item 1401 item 1400 item 1416 item 1402 ' is the best right now, because only champions that can use said enchant will be meta. It's a huge catch-22 I think.

heroikcMay 1, 20181 votes

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the TLDR is that he wants them to make Stalker's Blade the only jungle item. I'm... not 100% sure how I feel about doing that, tbh, since there's a good chance that could lead to 'what jungle enchantment between ' is the best right now, because only champions that can use said enchant will be meta. It's a huge catch-22 I think.

I'd rather have the variety with different jungle items (saber included).

lolipopevelynnMay 1, 20181 votes

removing sabre is not going to reduce the power of khazix and kayne at all lmao. if anything its going to make them stronger because now their damage isnt getting reduced by other sabre users.

dunder killMay 1, 20181 votes

Yes let's hard nerf the jungle then remove one of the two remaining upgrades too for shits and giggles

Pokemonred200May 1, 20181 votes

Maybe they should give us other options again. Back in Season 5, Skirmisher's Sabre was more or less completely underused by anyone except toplaners for a good chunk of its existence, which had a lot to do with Ranger's Trailblazer being just better overall because of the burst clear speed, sustain, and stun making it an overall dominant item. A a lot less junglers had CC to my memory, which made Stalker's Blade a common pick as well. Trailblazer is gone and the lack of CC has become a lesser issue, pushing Stalker's out of Relevance. (Most champions will burst you into oblivion right now anyway, so a small slow won't be as a dueling buff). That stuff combined is of course going to push Skirmisher's into relevancy; if there was another decent option (and if we weren't in a burst meta) I'm pretty sure Skirmisher's wouldn't be nearly as powerful as it is. It's been unchanged for almost three years after all.